I agree with Yossi. Hadassa
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 7:05 PM Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco < [email protected]> wrote: > Well, I don’t agree with the notion that we have to transcribe the > non-Hebrew names according to the rules of the Hebrew language. > > A search in the OCLC database found 1266 hits for “be-Polin” (of those > there are 146 records from the Library of Congress) and 140 hits for > “be-Folin” (of those there are 2 records from LC). > > Hebrew place name (Bene Berak, Berit ha-mo’atsot, etc.) should be > transcribed according to the Hebrew grammar rules (i.e bi-Vene Berak, > bi-Verit ha-moatsot, etc.) > > > > That reminds me on the story about the discussion in the Israeli Kenesset > in the 1950s when Rabbi Fishman of the Mafdal party complained that the > government does not encourage the use of proper grammatical rules, > especially a case of Dagesh in the letters Bet, Gimel, Dalet, Kaf, Peh and > Tav when they are at the beginning of a word. David Ben Gurion answered – > “Mar Pishman tsodek”, and that ended the discussion. > > > > Yossi > > > > > > *From:* Heb-naco *On Behalf Of *Gottschalk, Haim via Heb-naco > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2023 9:45 AM > *To:* Freedman, Vanessa <[email protected]>; Hebrew Name Authority > Funnel <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanisation of בביזנטיון > > > > Hi Vanessa, Grammatically speaking, I would Romanize it as be-Vizant. yun. > It is a foreign loan word. However, that said, in check in our database for > בברוקלין (in Brooklyn), I found the Romanization as bi-Bruḳlin. However, > that said I also > > Hi Vanessa, > > > > Grammatically speaking, I would Romanize it as be-Vizant.yun. It is a > foreign loan word. However, that said, in check in our database for > בברוקלין (in Brooklyn), I found the Romanization as bi-Bruḳlin. However, > that said I also search for בבני ברק and found bi-Vene Berak. My > inclination would be to have the B instead of a V, for the sake of > searching, similar to the idea of how we Romanize בירושלים as > bi-Yerushalayim instead of birushalayim. > > > > My 3.37 cents. > > > > Best, > > Haim > > __________ > > *Haim A. Gottschalk* > > *Hebraica and Judaica Cataloging Librarian* > > Asian and Middle Eastern Division, Israel and Judaica Section > > *Onsite Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and alternate Fridays* > > > > The Library of Congress > > 101 Independence Ave, SE, LM-537 > > Washington, DC 20540-4222 > > > > Direct: 202-707-2498 > > [email protected] > > > > > > *THIS EMAIL IS NOT CLASSIFIED* > > *Expressing my views. Ideas & opinions in this email are not intended to > represent those of the Library of Congress or its staff.* > > *P* Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Heb-naco <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Freedman, > Vanessa via Heb-naco > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2023 9:02 AM > *To:* Heb-NACO ([email protected]) <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [Heb-NACO] Romanisation of בביזנטיון > > > > *CAUTION:* This email message has been received from an external source. > Please use caution when opening attachments, or clicking on links. > > How would you Romanise בביזנטיון (in Byzantium)? I would think > be-Vizanṭyon but OCLC 1378074102 has be-Bizanṭyon. Would you retain the B > after be- because it’s a foreign loan word? Thanks Vanessa Vanessa Freedman > Subject Liaison Librarian: > > How would you Romanise בביזנטיון (in Byzantium)? I would think > be-Vizanṭyon but OCLC 1378074102 has be-Bizanṭyon. Would you retain the B > after be- because it’s a foreign loan word? > > > > Thanks > > > > Vanessa > > > > Vanessa Freedman > > Subject Liaison Librarian: Hebrew & Jewish Studies > > > > Pronouns: she/her > > Work pattern: Tues-Thurs 10am to 6pm > > > > Main Library > > UCL Library Services > > Library, Culture, Collections & Open Science > > Gower Street > > London > > WC1E 6BT > > > > Tel: 020 7679 2598 > > E-mail: [email protected] > > Twitter: @UCLHJSLibrary @vrfreedman > > Website: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.ucl.ac.uk/library__;!!KGKeukY!2T-Qxa_XPTYRcFd0NvHYPkTBYYEi_3_bBQM5e2nXL7gv3fdXUDqeHPDOQ8tp0TonL13nkqOLqe4a69LSv0KfasjKwfBBqVw$ > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.ucl.ac.uk/library__;!!KGKeukY!0NLGSmZCIJq7_oWDMaNiYxLaV6RJ4ntfT_nwD58UlBCk-TdFb_AShY4oAQlh3H3j88cBfRzqqTpsc-8MeYu3Yk7DjLA$> > > > > **Please remember the environment and only print this if necessary** > > > _______________________________________________ > Heb-naco mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco >
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