Good catch, thanks, Aaron!

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Dear All,

In terms of capitalization, LC romanizes as ha-Ḥonen le-Adam Daʻat.

Best,
A

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For some our newer colleagues and those less familiar with liturgical texts, it 
may not be so obvious.



The expressionהחונן לאדם דעת , ha-.honen le-adam da‘at, is from the 
weekdayעמידה 
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The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h. onen le-adam 
da'at with a het. Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device Get Outlook for Android From: 
Heb-naco <heb-naco-bounces+schiffma=yu. edu@ lists. osu. edu> on behalf of 
Galron,

The title page sure looks like a heh, but it is obviously ha-h.onen le-adam 
da'at with a het.



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Lili,

It is החונן – ha-.honen



See

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Yossi





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kol tsoholah 1. pdf Hi all, Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks 
in advance for your time and assistance! I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר 
קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and am stuck on the word ההונן in the 
subtitle. 

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Hi all,



Hopping on the Romanization help train here. Thanks in advance for your time 
and assistance!



I'm cataloging a reproduction of ספר קול צהלה (original OCLC: #500291215) and 
am stuck on the word ההונן in the subtitle. I've attached the title page - as 
you can see, the reproduction isn't crystal clear, but I feel certain that the 
spelling is ההונן rather than one of the ה's being a ח, but I could definitely 
be wrong. A keyword search of this word didn't lend me any results, and I can't 
seem to track it down in Even Shoshan (pages I consulted also attached).



In context, the whole subtitle phrase makes me think it is a sort of 
conjugation or (mis?)spelling of הון, so my best guess at the Romanization is 
ha-honan.



Curious what others think and would appreciate any perspectives!



Best,

Lili



P.S. - if anyone can't view the PDF attachment, let me know. I originally 
attached it to the email as a separate file (versus a OneDrive link), but the 
listserv said it was too big a file to send out. My apologies if that means 
this email went out twice...!



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