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Subject: Re: [HelenOS-devel] making HelenOS useful
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 09:05:25 +0200
From: Jakub Jermář <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]

On 06/28/2018 04:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> What's required to get the ball rolling? As I see it, applications needed
> are 1) SSH client and server 2) http server with TLS support 3) python

Work and getting the foundations of the system right.

> Some of these can be ported, but I worry about the limited POSIX
> compliance getting in the way. I have just today discovered HelenOS, so if
> I am misinformed about what's available, please politely correct me, with
> details.

There is a repository with third-party libraries and applications that
were made to run on HelenOS, which already includes Python:

  https://github.com/HelenOS/harbours

So porting POSIX applications is possible, but takes some energy. Note
that POSIX-compatibility is a non-goal for HelenOS and in some case
might even conflict with the design of HelenOS. On the other hand,
compatibility on the standard C library level _is_ a goal.

> I work for the infosec department of a very large corporation and am
> trying to provide an alternative to the CentOS and Ubuntu which currently
> make up the vast majority of the VMs we run.

Porting third-party software is currently not our focus as we are still
working on the foundations and are tweaking the programming interface a
lot (e.g. the capability system, the threading model, resource
management etc.). At this point, there might simply be better options
for replacing Linux VMs in production.

Jakub

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