Vinay, Hey I intend on being as safe as possible and I do appreciate your concerns.
As a general ball park what would the 12' + 8' hexayurt costs and the 8'+8' The one that has 18 and the other that has 26 4 x 8 prices and of course the 166 sq foot 18 4x8's. I will write more later. Its just a pressing question above. Ill try to write back more today. Thanks Abby On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) < [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Abby, good to meet you. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUfIe8xcR1M is a short film we made at a > winter hexayurt village in Brussels. It was for an art project, and very > successful. > > > http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/advice-for-occupy-avoid-winter-war-2881 > is > a piece I wrote which provides more context on winter operations, and why > one might wish *not* Occupy through the winter in cold places. It's based > on a lot of years spending a lot of time outdoors,and my time with freight > train riders and a grim sense of the importance of comfort to human > psychology. > > It appears to be the Ur-text from which the latest Adbusters Tactical > Briefing was prepared, for what that is worth: > > http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/adbusters-tactical-briefing-18.html > > so it's good to know people are listening. > > Umoja Village is also instructive: a squatted village in Florida that was > burned to the ground the night before the first hexayurts were to go up. > That was, hm, 2008 or so. Suspicious at the time. > > So that's my first advice: Don't occupy through the winter, it's going to > suck. > > If you are going to do it, there's two basic approaches. > > 1> Do the legwork, spend the money. > A> Get Thermax HD (which is a heavier grade of the Tuff R hexayurt > boards). It's fire rated because the aluminium surface is about as thick as > a coke can, so flame just can't penetrate. > B> Get softiles for the flooring. > > We're talking about $1000 per H12 hexayurt in those materials. They'll > last forever, though! > > 2> Hack it. > A> Smoke detector in every yurt. > B> Massively strict no-candles, no-cookstoves, no-fire policy that you > take really, really seriously. It's not just the hexayurt burning, it's the > stuff inside the hexayurt - cushions, blankets, couches. Cheap, warm stuff > tends to be flammable as hell. > C> Fire extinguishers. They're cheap and they really work. One per > hexayurt, standard issue. > D> No smoking inside. Ever. On pain of being kicked out of the camp. > Enforced, not joked about. > E> Manage the heating without flame. How, I don't know. > F> Treat the boards. There are fireproof paints. You could coat the boards > with wallpaper paste and thick, thick baking foil. You could look at a > fabric coating (for warmth) and load it with borax. You could ask some > engineers who do fire management work in real buildings what to do, and you > could obey them to the letter.* > > * yes, I mean ask a professional. I'm trained as an engineer: a software > engineer. I've got zero qualifications to tell you about how to manage fire > risk, and if you don't ask people who are properly trained to manage these > risks in buildings and communities, you're running the risk of one of us > screwing up so badly somebody gets killed. Use the web, find some suitable > engineering firm, anybody who deals with big buildings, and ask them to > help in support of Occupy. Somebody will say yes. > > Umoja Village is instructive. I'm not saying it was arson, but I'm saying > that the timing was very, very suspicious. You have to take that away as a > way of getting rid of your camp. This is harsh, but Occupy is beginning to > scare people, and the US has a long history of foul violence towards > movements of political change. My primary concern is with saving lives, and > I don't want to see a bunch of people getting hurt because of some off-duty > cop with a gallon of kerosene and a gutfull of whiskey. > > Just be careful out there, ok? > > On flooring: palettes, then a layer of the foam boards like the walls, > then a layer of 3mm hardboard (the cheap brown stuff) to spread the load of > people walking on it, otherwise they'll punch right through the insulation, > then a layer of carpet. > > Best guess, no guarantees, but it's the sort of thing that works. > > Good luck! > > Vinay > PS: not four inch tape, six inch tape. Your website says 4", and it makes > construction much, much harder. > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Abby <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Occupy pittsburgh is tossing around the idea of a hexayurt village. I >> will update more links after we make a video and have the final >> proposal. >> >> Heres a start on what we are up to. >> >> http://www.occupypittsburgh.org/content/hexayurts-we-need-these-winter >> >> If you have any advice on flooring and Is it fire proof or how can we >> make it fire proof. 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