Vinay, did you see HD boards for sale in the U.S. for $20 each? What thickness? And where?
I can't even find the HD boards in my area. And the Corning 2" boards with NO foil covering are $28 each at my Home Depot. That's $504 alone for 18 boards. Would really like to find the HD and at a price that would let me build an 18-board hexayurt for under $1,000. -- ken On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, at $20 a board which was the price I saw mentioned in your area, > that'll be > 18 * $20 + tape = $360 + mebbe $120 of tape, call it $500. > More when you add the floor. > Those are mighty large hexayurts, though. I think a lot of smaller units is > probably the way to go, it's much easier to manage privacy and comfort with a > lot of small spaces. > My $0.02, > V> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Abby Elizabeth <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Vinay, >> Hey I intend on being as safe as possible and I do appreciate your concerns. >> As a general ball park what would the 12' + 8' hexayurt costs and the 8'+8' >> The one that has 18 and the other that has 26 4 x 8 prices and of course the >> 166 sq foot 18 4x8's. >> I will write more later. Its just a pressing question above. Ill try to >> write back more today. >> Thanks >> Abby >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Abby, good to meet you. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUfIe8xcR1M is a short film we made at a >>> winter hexayurt village in Brussels. It was for an art project, and very >>> successful. >>> http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/advice-for-occupy-avoid-winter-war-2881 is >>> a piece I wrote which provides more context on winter operations, and why >>> one might wish *not* Occupy through the winter in cold places. It's based >>> on a lot of years spending a lot of time outdoors,and my time with freight >>> train riders and a grim sense of the importance of comfort to human >>> psychology. >>> It appears to be the Ur-text from which the latest Adbusters Tactical >>> Briefing was prepared, for what that is worth: >>> http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/adbusters-tactical-briefing-18.html >>> so it's good to know people are listening. >>> Umoja Village is also instructive: a squatted village in Florida that was >>> burned to the ground the night before the first hexayurts were to go up. >>> That was, hm, 2008 or so. Suspicious at the time. >>> So that's my first advice: Don't occupy through the winter, it's going to >>> suck. >>> If you are going to do it, there's two basic approaches. >>> 1> Do the legwork, spend the money. >>> A> Get Thermax HD (which is a heavier grade of the Tuff R hexayurt boards). >>> It's fire rated because the aluminium surface is about as thick as a coke >>> can, so flame just can't penetrate. >>> B> Get softiles for the flooring. >>> We're talking about $1000 per H12 hexayurt in those materials. They'll last >>> forever, though! >>> 2> Hack it. >>> A> Smoke detector in every yurt. >>> B> Massively strict no-candles, no-cookstoves, no-fire policy that you take >>> really, really seriously. It's not just the hexayurt burning, it's the >>> stuff inside the hexayurt - cushions, blankets, couches. Cheap, warm stuff >>> tends to be flammable as hell. >>> C> Fire extinguishers. They're cheap and they really work. One per >>> hexayurt, standard issue. >>> D> No smoking inside. Ever. On pain of being kicked out of the camp. >>> Enforced, not joked about. >>> E> Manage the heating without flame. How, I don't know. >>> F> Treat the boards. There are fireproof paints. You could coat the boards >>> with wallpaper paste and thick, thick baking foil. You could look at a >>> fabric coating (for warmth) and load it with borax. You could ask some >>> engineers who do fire management work in real buildings what to do, and you >>> could obey them to the letter.* >>> * yes, I mean ask a professional. I'm trained as an engineer: a software >>> engineer. I've got zero qualifications to tell you about how to manage fire >>> risk, and if you don't ask people who are properly trained to manage these >>> risks in buildings and communities, you're running the risk of one of us >>> screwing up so badly somebody gets killed. Use the web, find some suitable >>> engineering firm, anybody who deals with big buildings, and ask them to >>> help in support of Occupy. Somebody will say yes. >>> Umoja Village is instructive. I'm not saying it was arson, but I'm saying >>> that the timing was very, very suspicious. You have to take that away as a >>> way of getting rid of your camp. This is harsh, but Occupy is beginning to >>> scare people, and the US has a long history of foul violence towards >>> movements of political change. My primary concern is with saving lives, and >>> I don't want to see a bunch of people getting hurt because of some off-duty >>> cop with a gallon of kerosene and a gutfull of whiskey. >>> Just be careful out there, ok? >>> On flooring: palettes, then a layer of the foam boards like the walls, then >>> a layer of 3mm hardboard (the cheap brown stuff) to spread the load of >>> people walking on it, otherwise they'll punch right through the insulation, >>> then a layer of carpet. >>> Best guess, no guarantees, but it's the sort of thing that works. >>> Good luck! >>> Vinay >>> PS: not four inch tape, six inch tape. Your website says 4", and it makes >>> construction much, much harder. >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Abby <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Occupy pittsburgh is tossing around the idea of a hexayurt village. I >>>> will update more links after we make a video and have the final >>>> proposal. >>>> >>>> Heres a start on what we are up to. >>>> >>>> http://www.occupypittsburgh.org/content/hexayurts-we-need-these-winter >>>> >>>> If you have any advice on flooring and Is it fire proof or how can we >>>> make it fire proof. 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