Well, at $20 a board which was the price I saw mentioned in your area, that'll be
18 * $20 + tape = $360 + mebbe $120 of tape, call it $500. More when you add the floor. Those are mighty large hexayurts, though. I think a lot of smaller units is probably the way to go, it's much easier to manage privacy and comfort with a lot of small spaces. My $0.02, V> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Abby Elizabeth <[email protected]>wrote: > Vinay, > > Hey I intend on being as safe as possible and I do appreciate your > concerns. > > As a general ball park what would the 12' + 8' hexayurt costs and the 8'+8' > The one that has 18 and the other that has 26 4 x 8 prices and of course > the 166 sq foot 18 4x8's. > > I will write more later. Its just a pressing question above. Ill try to > write back more today. > > Thanks > > Abby > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Abby, good to meet you. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUfIe8xcR1M is a short film we made at a >> winter hexayurt village in Brussels. It was for an art project, and very >> successful. >> >> >> http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/advice-for-occupy-avoid-winter-war-2881 >> is >> a piece I wrote which provides more context on winter operations, and why >> one might wish *not* Occupy through the winter in cold places. It's based >> on a lot of years spending a lot of time outdoors,and my time with freight >> train riders and a grim sense of the importance of comfort to human >> psychology. >> >> It appears to be the Ur-text from which the latest Adbusters Tactical >> Briefing was prepared, for what that is worth: >> >> http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/adbusters-tactical-briefing-18.html >> >> so it's good to know people are listening. >> >> Umoja Village is also instructive: a squatted village in Florida that was >> burned to the ground the night before the first hexayurts were to go up. >> That was, hm, 2008 or so. Suspicious at the time. >> >> So that's my first advice: Don't occupy through the winter, it's going to >> suck. >> >> If you are going to do it, there's two basic approaches. >> >> 1> Do the legwork, spend the money. >> A> Get Thermax HD (which is a heavier grade of the Tuff R hexayurt >> boards). It's fire rated because the aluminium surface is about as thick as >> a coke can, so flame just can't penetrate. >> B> Get softiles for the flooring. >> >> We're talking about $1000 per H12 hexayurt in those materials. They'll >> last forever, though! >> >> 2> Hack it. >> A> Smoke detector in every yurt. >> B> Massively strict no-candles, no-cookstoves, no-fire policy that you >> take really, really seriously. It's not just the hexayurt burning, it's the >> stuff inside the hexayurt - cushions, blankets, couches. Cheap, warm stuff >> tends to be flammable as hell. >> C> Fire extinguishers. They're cheap and they really work. One per >> hexayurt, standard issue. >> D> No smoking inside. Ever. On pain of being kicked out of the camp. >> Enforced, not joked about. >> E> Manage the heating without flame. How, I don't know. >> F> Treat the boards. There are fireproof paints. You could coat the >> boards with wallpaper paste and thick, thick baking foil. You could look at >> a fabric coating (for warmth) and load it with borax. You could ask some >> engineers who do fire management work in real buildings what to do, and you >> could obey them to the letter.* >> >> * yes, I mean ask a professional. I'm trained as an engineer: a software >> engineer. I've got zero qualifications to tell you about how to manage fire >> risk, and if you don't ask people who are properly trained to manage these >> risks in buildings and communities, you're running the risk of one of us >> screwing up so badly somebody gets killed. Use the web, find some suitable >> engineering firm, anybody who deals with big buildings, and ask them to >> help in support of Occupy. Somebody will say yes. >> >> Umoja Village is instructive. I'm not saying it was arson, but I'm saying >> that the timing was very, very suspicious. You have to take that away as a >> way of getting rid of your camp. This is harsh, but Occupy is beginning to >> scare people, and the US has a long history of foul violence towards >> movements of political change. My primary concern is with saving lives, and >> I don't want to see a bunch of people getting hurt because of some off-duty >> cop with a gallon of kerosene and a gutfull of whiskey. >> >> Just be careful out there, ok? >> >> On flooring: palettes, then a layer of the foam boards like the walls, >> then a layer of 3mm hardboard (the cheap brown stuff) to spread the load of >> people walking on it, otherwise they'll punch right through the insulation, >> then a layer of carpet. >> >> Best guess, no guarantees, but it's the sort of thing that works. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Vinay >> PS: not four inch tape, six inch tape. Your website says 4", and it makes >> construction much, much harder. >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Abby <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Occupy pittsburgh is tossing around the idea of a hexayurt village. I >>> will update more links after we make a video and have the final >>> proposal. >>> >>> Heres a start on what we are up to. >>> >>> http://www.occupypittsburgh.org/content/hexayurts-we-need-these-winter >>> >>> If you have any advice on flooring and Is it fire proof or how can we >>> make it fire proof. 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