No, I haven't seen HD for $20 a sheet, sorry. You have to call Dow about sourcing it. It's a bulk order item, generally speaking. Minimum order used to be about 30 sheets.
V> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:53 PM, ken winston caine < [email protected]> wrote: > Vinay, did you see HD boards for sale in the U.S. for $20 each? What > thickness? And where? > > I can't even find the HD boards in my area. And the Corning 2" boards > with NO foil covering are $28 each at my Home Depot. That's $504 alone > for 18 boards. > > Would really like to find the HD and at a price that would let me > build an 18-board hexayurt for under $1,000. > > -- ken > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter > Project) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Well, at $20 a board which was the price I saw mentioned in your area, > that'll be > > 18 * $20 + tape = $360 + mebbe $120 of tape, call it $500. > > More when you add the floor. > > Those are mighty large hexayurts, though. I think a lot of smaller units > is probably the way to go, it's much easier to manage privacy and comfort > with a lot of small spaces. > > My $0.02, > > V> > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Abby Elizabeth <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Vinay, > >> Hey I intend on being as safe as possible and I do appreciate your > concerns. > >> As a general ball park what would the 12' + 8' hexayurt costs and the > 8'+8' > >> The one that has 18 and the other that has 26 4 x 8 prices and of > course the 166 sq foot 18 4x8's. > >> I will write more later. Its just a pressing question above. Ill try to > write back more today. > >> Thanks > >> Abby > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Abby, good to meet you. > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUfIe8xcR1M is a short film we made at > a winter hexayurt village in Brussels. It was for an art project, and very > successful. > >>> > http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/other/advice-for-occupy-avoid-winter-war-2881 > is > a piece I wrote which provides more context on winter operations, and why > one might wish *not* Occupy through the winter in cold places. It's based > on a lot of years spending a lot of time outdoors,and my time with freight > train riders and a grim sense of the importance of comfort to human > psychology. > >>> It appears to be the Ur-text from which the latest Adbusters Tactical > Briefing was prepared, for what that is worth: > >>> > http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/adbusters-tactical-briefing-18.html > >>> so it's good to know people are listening. > >>> Umoja Village is also instructive: a squatted village in Florida that > was burned to the ground the night before the first hexayurts were to go > up. That was, hm, 2008 or so. Suspicious at the time. > >>> So that's my first advice: Don't occupy through the winter, it's going > to suck. > >>> If you are going to do it, there's two basic approaches. > >>> 1> Do the legwork, spend the money. > >>> A> Get Thermax HD (which is a heavier grade of the Tuff R hexayurt > boards). It's fire rated because the aluminium surface is about as thick as > a coke can, so flame just can't penetrate. > >>> B> Get softiles for the flooring. > >>> We're talking about $1000 per H12 hexayurt in those materials. They'll > last forever, though! > >>> 2> Hack it. > >>> A> Smoke detector in every yurt. > >>> B> Massively strict no-candles, no-cookstoves, no-fire policy that you > take really, really seriously. It's not just the hexayurt burning, it's the > stuff inside the hexayurt - cushions, blankets, couches. Cheap, warm stuff > tends to be flammable as hell. > >>> C> Fire extinguishers. They're cheap and they really work. One per > hexayurt, standard issue. > >>> D> No smoking inside. Ever. On pain of being kicked out of the camp. > Enforced, not joked about. > >>> E> Manage the heating without flame. How, I don't know. > >>> F> Treat the boards. There are fireproof paints. You could coat the > boards with wallpaper paste and thick, thick baking foil. You could look at > a fabric coating (for warmth) and load it with borax. You could ask some > engineers who do fire management work in real buildings what to do, and you > could obey them to the letter.* > >>> * yes, I mean ask a professional. I'm trained as an engineer: a > software engineer. I've got zero qualifications to tell you about how to > manage fire risk, and if you don't ask people who are properly trained to > manage these risks in buildings and communities, you're running the risk of > one of us screwing up so badly somebody gets killed. Use the web, find some > suitable engineering firm, anybody who deals with big buildings, and ask > them to help in support of Occupy. Somebody will say yes. > >>> Umoja Village is instructive. I'm not saying it was arson, but I'm > saying that the timing was very, very suspicious. You have to take that > away as a way of getting rid of your camp. This is harsh, but Occupy is > beginning to scare people, and the US has a long history of foul violence > towards movements of political change. My primary concern is with saving > lives, and I don't want to see a bunch of people getting hurt because of > some off-duty cop with a gallon of kerosene and a gutfull of whiskey. > >>> Just be careful out there, ok? > >>> On flooring: palettes, then a layer of the foam boards like the walls, > then a layer of 3mm hardboard (the cheap brown stuff) to spread the load of > people walking on it, otherwise they'll punch right through the insulation, > then a layer of carpet. > >>> Best guess, no guarantees, but it's the sort of thing that works. > >>> Good luck! > >>> Vinay > >>> PS: not four inch tape, six inch tape. Your website says 4", and it > makes construction much, much harder. > >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Abby <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Occupy pittsburgh is tossing around the idea of a hexayurt village. I > >>>> will update more links after we make a video and have the final > >>>> proposal. > >>>> > >>>> Heres a start on what we are up to. > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.occupypittsburgh.org/content/hexayurts-we-need-these-winter > >>>> > >>>> If you have any advice on flooring and Is it fire proof or how can we > >>>> make it fire proof. 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