Yeah. I figure the number of false positives is probably smaller than the number of false negatives, but unless we get *really* high res ground imagery (think drones) I can't see how we could improve it.
If they took sat imagery, *somebody* has the high res - maybe the company that took the shot hasn't released it yet for some admin reason (like you can see a UFO flyover with joyriding aliens or something). But it'll be there! V> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:33 PM, hal muskat <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Vinay & all, there is a 2013 playa sat image but I've not seen one with > enough res to count hexayurts. I've asked at the bmorg. > > Also, a better method of counting is required. For 2012, 2 doz traditional > canvas poled teepes in a camp right next to ours, were counted on the map > as "hexayurts" We do really want accurate numbers. > > Very inspiring conversations here. Thanks! > > Phoenix > Black Rock Hexayurts > > > On Jan 29, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) wrote: > > Oh wicked! I love Go! Thank you for your work on it! > > I'm on the mailing list (most recently, asking about getting type info out > of the SQL database adapters). Odds-are most of what I'm going to be > building in future will be in Go, I just can't abide javascript, Python's > stalled, and *way* back in the day I was very into Occam. Edinburgh > Parallel Computing Center was where I was heading, if I hadn't gotten > dragged sideways, wound up in 3D graphics, video games and then the web > (and, you know, then Rocky Mountain Institute and the rest just happened.) > > In a year or so, I want a hexayurt camp simulator - something that does > agent-based modelling of a notional camp that we could get a sense of what > various technologies (water filter A vs. water delivery system B) might > look like. It's kinda blue-sky now, but I think there's a ton of room for > simulation to help prove the concepts, and I want to collect data in a > fairly intensive way from the first camp. > > If you come across anybody at Google that would be interested in thinking > about that, let me know. There's an amazing humanitarian opportunity to > wire the camps, connect people with their relatives outside of the problem > area, bring in relevant knowledge resources ("quick diagnostics: does your > kid need to go to the medical center?", "how do I get an exit visa?") and > so on. > > We already count the hexayurts from satellite data (is there a 2013 image > yet?), but imagine... well, you get the general idea. > > In short: "Hi, I love your stuff!" :-) > > Vinay > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Adam Risi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It's not often I see a message about Go in the wild! >> >> I'm an engineer at Google and use Go daily, as well as occasionally >> working with the Go core team. If you aren't on the best go mailing list >> out there, check out https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/golang-nuts >> >> Build on, >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> I've gone back to writing software: google's Go is everything I was >>> interested in about computer science (parallelism, mainly) in a can. I >>> figure we're most of the way on the hexayurt infrastructure stuff (see >>> http://stacktivism.com for the latest flowering of that) and I'm >>> basically reskilling to start on the software to manage hexayurt refugee >>> camps and other off-the-grid deployments. Resource management and >>> allocation code. >>> >>> Still living in London. Sodding expensive, but that's life. >>> >>> I kinda want to be back in Ireland, but that's not going to happen. >>> >>> V> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Richard Ginn <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Getting back up to speed, much photography. What are you up to Vinay? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good find, Richard! How's it going? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Richard Ginn >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.softtiles.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&Itemid=69 >>>>>> >>>>>> they are running a sale right now >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >>>>>> Project) <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good point on fire - in particular, beware carbon monoxide build up >>>>>>> inside. Hexayurts are far more air tight than tents! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Two tips. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) The tape at the bottom of each roof panel has to be done *really* >>>>>>> carefully. Rain will run down the roof panel, hit the tape, and then >>>>>>> either >>>>>>> go up-and-over and harmlessly off the side of your hexayurt, or it will >>>>>>> hit >>>>>>> the tape and go under, and then eventually into the hexayurt or just >>>>>>> soak >>>>>>> the foam. You might wind up using a layer of something like gorilla >>>>>>> tape on >>>>>>> the interface between the filament tape and the roof just to protect >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> seam - the rubbery glues form a more comprehensive bond than the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) You'll want to insulate the floor. You've got a lot of insulation >>>>>>> between you and the air, but the ground sucks heat a lot more >>>>>>> effectively >>>>>>> than the air does, and usually you would only have a plastic tarp >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> you and the ground. That's great for Burning Man, it significantly helps >>>>>>> the hexayurt stay cool - if you've ever been in a hexayurt with a carpet >>>>>>> floor you'll really feel the difference. But for your applications, >>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>> want a covering. Softiles http://www.softtiles.com/ and equivalent >>>>>>> products are great: a bit expensive, but great. Carpet, once it is wet, >>>>>>> won't really insulate at all, and that's Damned Inconvenient. Tarp, then >>>>>>> carpet, then tarp would probably work reasonably well, although the top >>>>>>> tarp will tend to wear fast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope that helps, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> V> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Pichard Kempo Karate < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> my main concern will be fire or any flame for that matter :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Christie Chronister >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Hi All: >>>>>>>> > I'm fairly new here so I apologize if this topic has been >>>>>>>> addressed before. >>>>>>>> > I'm looking into building a pentayurt for a winter burn, and then >>>>>>>> re-using >>>>>>>> > it for some other non-playa burns... So not concerned about too >>>>>>>> much heat or >>>>>>>> > dust. Snow and rain are probably my first concern. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 1. Is there anything I should do differently? For instance I >>>>>>>> would like to >>>>>>>> > keep heat IN not keep it out. Or at least make it easier to do >>>>>>>> so while >>>>>>>> > still allowing for some cooling if used in the summer in mild >>>>>>>> conditions. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > 2. Is there anything I can skip to save money? i.e. since I'm >>>>>>>> not worried >>>>>>>> > about direct sunlight/excessive heat, can I use a different type >>>>>>>> of tape >>>>>>>> > that is cheaper/widely available? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Thanks in advance for your advice! >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Christie >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an >>>>>>>> > email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>>>>>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- Fabien (sent from my phone) >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://www.kempowa.com/PugetSound >>>>>>>> 425-985-8613 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc <http://bit.ly/gupta_arc%20>- the Gupta >>>>>>> State Failure Management Archive >>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - 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