No problem, we found it at a couple of places, it seems readily available at commercial construction supply stores such as IDI < http://idi-insulation.com/ > and Allied < http://www.alliedbuilding.com/ >. Both were willing to sell over the counter and kept the product in stock or within less than a week delivery, they also were willing to deliver locally.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) <[email protected]> wrote: > > Really good to know about the Hunter XCI. Thank you for finding it, Adam and > Hunter. > > Could somebody add it to the wiki? Do we have any more information on the > supply chain, how to actually buy the stuff? Who's stocking it? > > V> > > -- > Vinay Gupta [email protected] http://re.silience.com > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Adam Bregenzer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We couldn't find anyone who would sell Thermax HD unless we bought Dow's >> entire minimum order from them, which is 1,100 sheets. >> >> The good news is we found an alternative panel, Hunter Xci 286 (link to >> specs below). It has the same compressive strength and fire rating as >> Thermax HD and is available in smaller quantities, also it's cheaper than >> the quoted price for Thermax, but still relatively expensive at ~$33 / >> sheet. The foil on both sides is a metal foil. One side is highly >> reflective, the other is white. >> >> >> http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_lit.pdf >> >> >> >> On Jun 10, 2014 8:50 AM, "Hunter" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> After months of searching we found out no one in the bay area will supply >>> you with thermax hd (if you were buying less than 150 sheets). We went with >>> Hunter xcl (?) which had similar fire properties. >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:40 AM, "Dan March" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Tim ~ I'm also concerned with safety and look for materials that >>>> really do the job well.... and with a safety margin I'm comfortable with. >>>> The theoretical fire-related risks in a yurt with aluminized interior >>>> surface are scary with the lens effect and other concentrating potentials. >>>> Even - or in some hypothetical cases - without the foam board itself >>>> catching fire, just having any substantial amount of stuff burning in a >>>> heat-concentrating structure can get pretty intense. Thinking of keeping >>>> any flames out of there, myself. I like to cook but might have a separate, >>>> safer place to do it... also experimenting with more serious electrical >>>> power and using non-flame cooking stuffs like induction - which looks >>>> amazing btw. >>>> >>>> It appears to me that a well-constructed H15 (which, to me, means >>>> mitered corners - which really improve the integrity of tape joints & >>>> carrying through the structural properties of the skin over the foam, and >>>> also means well tied down and weak points like doorways reinforced) made => >>>> 1.5" thick board should stand up to an acceptably high percentage of >>>> possible weather on the playa. I don't think any weight difference is >>>> practically significant. I can lift a whole H15 either way if it's a >>>> package I can handle. >>>> >>>> I'm playing with Hexacomb board. It's quite a bit more rigid but needs >>>> waterproofing and possibly some help with insulation & reflection. It's >>>> pretty light and about half the price of HD. Also playing with hybrid >>>> systems - board captured by EMT TinkerToy. Hard to price that kind of >>>> stuff >>>> though... more of an art statement you live in... >>>> >>>> Re group buys, Home Depot might special order HD in some quantity, but >>>> probably not necessarily a huge amount, so I'm not counting that as much of >>>> a barrier. Costs a bit more but like you say... Either way, I can do the >>>> kits and accessories. >>>> >>>> ~ Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tim <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We'd be interested in a group order as well. >>>>> >>>>> I'm somewhat new to yurt building. I've read most of the guides but am >>>>> yet to read up on true side-by-side comparisons of each type of material >>>>> for >>>>> playa use. I tend to "buy the best" if that makes sense, so I'm attracted >>>>> to >>>>> HD. That said, is it actually that much better on the playa? I'm also >>>>> curious if it weighs much more, considering structural implications for an >>>>> H15. Thanks for any insight. Count us in if this *is* the "best" option >>>>> for >>>>> the $$. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:00:20 AM UTC-7, BurnerDan wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Safety is an issue. All campers need to be aware of the risks - >>>>>> especially of fire - in sleeping in many Playa constructs, but yurts have >>>>>> special dangers because of their materials and tightness. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there any history of encouraging smoke alarm use and do any/all >>>>>> such units remain reliable under Playa conditions? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:06:59 AM UTC-8, Vinay Gupta wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're tougher. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They're not that much more expensive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They won't catch fire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I feel like this would be a great year to actually fix the supply >>>>>>> chain issues around Thermax HD (or equivalents from other >>>>>>> manufacturers), do >>>>>>> a container load bulk purchase, and start moving people off R-MAX etc. >>>>>>> until >>>>>>> there's a comprehensive solution for the fire risk. 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