We have to get people off RMAX etc. and on to Hunter XCI 286 / Thermax HD
and such like.
Have to. It's time.

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On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Dan March <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey y'all ~
>
> When I saw the headline for this post, I imagined yurts at some stage of
> tear-down and loading getting blown astray - or worse, being abandoned (so
> I'd be interested in how that quantified).
>
> Of course, reading it revealed a problem pretty hard to miss on the roads
> away from BRC - just as darxus reports.  Bringing the large amounts of
> stuff - from art to experimental dwellings to costumes and consumables are
> all part of what make the experience what it is - so we deal with it
> better.
>
> It's legitimate to call out yurts specifically.  There are more every year
> (because they're such as cool dwelling solution), but that really means we
> need to solve the transport problem.  It's kind of unique to yurts because
> it's possible and tempting to flap a stack of insulation boards on your
> roof rack and drive.  They're light.  But as noted, they're also fragile.
>
> Even though they're modular and collapsible, they do take up significant
> space in garages, etc.
>
> *Conceptually simple solution:*  Store them more or less on the playa.
> As I understand it, many organized camps have storage containers left on
> adjacent non-BLM land which are transported to & from campsites for each
> year's burn by BLC "facilities" guys (someone help me out with their
> official name... and contact info, please).
>
> *Real-world wrinkles:* ..Attendance uncertainty,
> maintenance/repair/remodel/replace and on-playa logistics.  None of that is
> easy,  I got a little look at that by making almost 30 yurts, getting them
> to people (mostly on-playa), dealing with supplier delays, weather delays,
> entry delays, people not coming after all, unforeseen "variation" in
> user/owner setup and breakdown etc.  Then, "What's worth saving?" - which
> means cleaning up dust, messed up tape, dings, etc.  I'm pretty sure a
> significant percentage of yurts come out of the garage 5 years after their
> only burn and just land in the trash (carbon/general environmental
> footprint???).
>
> So it's not a "simple" solution.  But is there a better one?  It's
> certainly not a one solution fits all world either.  Camps and other groups
> carefully collect yurts and put them in the camp storage.  But not every
> camp does this for everyone all the time.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Dan
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:49 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://blog.burningman.com/2014/09/environment/moop-map-2014-roadside-poop-hexamoop/
>>
>> 'The second, more surprising 2014 trend: hexayurts. Large numbers
>> of broken hexayurt panels wound up littering the highway, scattering
>> little bits of styrofoam through the sage. Solution: Strap your hexayurt
>> panels more carefully, so they won’t bend and break when you hit
>> highway speeds.
>>
>> “Wrap your yurts! They fly away, and once it hits the sagebrush,
>> it’s over,” says Ninjalina, Highway Cleanup Assistant Manager. The
>> prickly branches catch bits of foam and wood as they blow past in the
>> wind, creating an extended trail of littered brush.
>>
>> “My truck alone picked up 64 contractor bags of trash, 30 tires,
>> 20 yurt panels and a bunch of miscellaneous stuff,” Ninjalina says.'
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