Great, Rachel! If you do take a few pictures, may I use them to document it on Appropedia? You know, for the next million builders... El 21/08/2015 01:14, "Rachel SG" <[email protected]> escribió:
> Okay, folks, I did previously create a paper model which didn't answer all > of my questions but upon LucasG's suggestion (thanks Lucas!) I made a > cardboard model and think I've come to a solution. > > When dealing with just 1/2 of the roof (meaning 3 triangles, all with 4' > bases), I tried to do a tight hinge with a loose hinge. Although the tight > hinge DOES work (when paired with a loose hinge), we run into the dreaded > RAIN problem with the tight hinge. This could be devastating for my little > tiny yurt to have two tight hinge rain funnels, so I wanted to find a way > of using no tight hinges and still making it work. In the Danger model, all > of the tight hinges for the roof are those that connect two smaller > triangles together to form one bigger triangle, but in the 6' yurt, we > don't have any small triangles that need to be constructed into larger > triangles. Instead, we have 6 triangles (3 per side) that are taped > together along their angles. Therefore, in the Danger model, all of the > loose hinges are actually along seams I already have (since I didn't cut my > triangles in two), therefore, tight hinges are probably not necessary for > my model. > > Accordingly, I think I can successfully loose hinge both sides of the > middle triangle on each roof half (loose hinge 1/2 width of the panel as in > the Danger method) in order for them to fold for transport, have an easy > set up on the playa and avoid the possibility of a rain funnel which goes > right into my yurt. > > I am planning on finishing my yurt on Sunday and will definitely report > back! > > Also, as Lucas pointed out, this will fold up into 6 4'x4' square pieces > (the base) and 6 triangles with a base of 4', which I will sandwich between > plywood and wrap in a tarp for transport on my car. A huge part of why I > chose to do the 6' model is because I won't be sharing it with anyone AND I > wanted it to fit well on top of my Toyota Corolla without causing me too > much stress on the road. I think this will be a mission accomplished! > > Anyone got any ideas on how best to place the triangles in my sandwich? > Should the 4' bottoms be facing the front of my car? Away from the front? > Does it not matter because it'll be wrapped in a tarp? > > Thanks so much for all the input! It is so cool to feel like I am part of > the yurt community! :) > > > > > On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 4:05:01 PM UTC-7, LucasG wrote: >> >> Hope this helps. If we have two half walls (123 and 456l and two half >> roofs (ABC and DEF), each of them needs a tight hinge and a loose hinge. I >> think. But do try with cardboard. >> >> For packing, the six squares can be stacked nicely, and you get a square >> that's six panels thick. The roof pieces are also six panels thick, but >> they don't form a square; some, but not all the room left, can be filled by >> the 4 spare pieces, each of them half a roof piece. Not ideal, maybe not >> too bad. >> >> Cardboard anyone? >> El 18/08/2015 06:03, "Lucas González" <[email protected]> escribió: >> >>> Cardboard model. Or even paper model to start with. But definitely a >>> cardboard model. >>> >>> Six walls, each 4' by 4', can be done as two strips, each made of three >>> squares, first to second a tight hinge, second to third a loose hinge. >>> These are 3 panels, each cut in half to give us three squares. As you say, >>> no problem there. >>> >>> Six roof pieces, each an equilateral triangle with a base of 4', from >>> two panels (each with four cuts) which give you three roof pieces each, >>> plus a total of 4 "left over" "half roof-piece", right? I wonder if you'd >>> want some of those half roof-pieces if there's need to do some folding. >>> >>> Model just the roof? Number the pieces: R1 to R6, plus abcd for the >>> half-triangle leftover thingies. Try two different half-roofs, one using >>> leftovers and one without? Post a picture or two. Allow us to use the >>> picture in a wikipage which we'd call "folding six-foot" or whatever? This >>> should help the next million, so thank you. >>> El 18/08/2015 05:06, "Rachel Schwartz-Gilbert" <[email protected]> >>> escribió: >>> >>>> Also, the danger method uses spaces that are 1/2 the width of the >>>> panels for the loose hinges, I am wondering if one of my hinges need to be >>>> 1/2 the width of a panel and the other needs to be a whole width of a >>>> panel? Then they can fold on top of each other? I think that is how that >>>> should work... but am still struggling a little bit with the concept of it >>>> all. >>>> >>>> On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 1:47:03 AM UTC-7, Rachel Schwartz-Gilbert >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to build the folding camp danger model for my yurt this >>>>> year (first yurt building project here!) but all of the directions seem to >>>>> be for much larger yurts than my 6' one. >>>>> >>>>> I can easily process the directions for the wall panels but am having >>>>> a little bit of trouble conceptualizing how the roof panels will work. As >>>>> of now, I have 6 triangles for the roof (3 per each side of the roof - as >>>>> per the 6' directions) but camp danger uses 12 smaller triangles >>>>> (basically these 6 cut in half and stretched out). Can I just leave my >>>>> three triangles per side instead of cutting them in half (and then tight >>>>> sealing them)? Cutting them seems to benefit transport for the Danger >>>>> technique but either way mine wont fold up like the bigger yurts so I >>>>> don't >>>>> see any real benefit in cutting the triangles in half. Basically, I am >>>>> trying to figure out if my hinges will all be loose hinges pre-playa since >>>>> the "tight hinges" would be if I cut my current triangles in half. >>>>> >>>>> I am hoping that question makes sense.... >>>>> >>>>> Thank you in advance! >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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