Absolutely! I'll make sure to take lots of photos! Thanks for your help! On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 10:35:23 PM UTC-7, LucasG wrote: > > Great, Rachel! If you do take a few pictures, may I use them to document > it on Appropedia? You know, for the next million builders... > El 21/08/2015 01:14, "Rachel SG" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > escribió: > >> Okay, folks, I did previously create a paper model which didn't answer >> all of my questions but upon LucasG's suggestion (thanks Lucas!) I made a >> cardboard model and think I've come to a solution. >> >> When dealing with just 1/2 of the roof (meaning 3 triangles, all with 4' >> bases), I tried to do a tight hinge with a loose hinge. Although the tight >> hinge DOES work (when paired with a loose hinge), we run into the dreaded >> RAIN problem with the tight hinge. This could be devastating for my little >> tiny yurt to have two tight hinge rain funnels, so I wanted to find a way >> of using no tight hinges and still making it work. In the Danger model, all >> of the tight hinges for the roof are those that connect two smaller >> triangles together to form one bigger triangle, but in the 6' yurt, we >> don't have any small triangles that need to be constructed into larger >> triangles. Instead, we have 6 triangles (3 per side) that are taped >> together along their angles. Therefore, in the Danger model, all of the >> loose hinges are actually along seams I already have (since I didn't cut my >> triangles in two), therefore, tight hinges are probably not necessary for >> my model. >> >> Accordingly, I think I can successfully loose hinge both sides of the >> middle triangle on each roof half (loose hinge 1/2 width of the panel as in >> the Danger method) in order for them to fold for transport, have an easy >> set up on the playa and avoid the possibility of a rain funnel which goes >> right into my yurt. >> >> I am planning on finishing my yurt on Sunday and will definitely report >> back! >> >> Also, as Lucas pointed out, this will fold up into 6 4'x4' square pieces >> (the base) and 6 triangles with a base of 4', which I will sandwich between >> plywood and wrap in a tarp for transport on my car. A huge part of why I >> chose to do the 6' model is because I won't be sharing it with anyone AND I >> wanted it to fit well on top of my Toyota Corolla without causing me too >> much stress on the road. I think this will be a mission accomplished! >> >> Anyone got any ideas on how best to place the triangles in my sandwich? >> Should the 4' bottoms be facing the front of my car? Away from the front? >> Does it not matter because it'll be wrapped in a tarp? >> >> Thanks so much for all the input! It is so cool to feel like I am part of >> the yurt community! :) >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 4:05:01 PM UTC-7, LucasG wrote: >>> >>> Hope this helps. If we have two half walls (123 and 456l and two half >>> roofs (ABC and DEF), each of them needs a tight hinge and a loose hinge. I >>> think. But do try with cardboard. >>> >>> For packing, the six squares can be stacked nicely, and you get a square >>> that's six panels thick. The roof pieces are also six panels thick, but >>> they don't form a square; some, but not all the room left, can be filled by >>> the 4 spare pieces, each of them half a roof piece. Not ideal, maybe not >>> too bad. >>> >>> Cardboard anyone? >>> El 18/08/2015 06:03, "Lucas González" <[email protected]> escribió: >>> >>>> Cardboard model. Or even paper model to start with. But definitely a >>>> cardboard model. >>>> >>>> Six walls, each 4' by 4', can be done as two strips, each made of three >>>> squares, first to second a tight hinge, second to third a loose hinge. >>>> These are 3 panels, each cut in half to give us three squares. As you say, >>>> no problem there. >>>> >>>> Six roof pieces, each an equilateral triangle with a base of 4', from >>>> two panels (each with four cuts) which give you three roof pieces each, >>>> plus a total of 4 "left over" "half roof-piece", right? I wonder if you'd >>>> want some of those half roof-pieces if there's need to do some folding. >>>> >>>> Model just the roof? Number the pieces: R1 to R6, plus abcd for the >>>> half-triangle leftover thingies. Try two different half-roofs, one using >>>> leftovers and one without? Post a picture or two. Allow us to use the >>>> picture in a wikipage which we'd call "folding six-foot" or whatever? This >>>> should help the next million, so thank you. >>>> El 18/08/2015 05:06, "Rachel Schwartz-Gilbert" <[email protected]> >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Also, the danger method uses spaces that are 1/2 the width of the >>>>> panels for the loose hinges, I am wondering if one of my hinges need to >>>>> be >>>>> 1/2 the width of a panel and the other needs to be a whole width of a >>>>> panel? Then they can fold on top of each other? I think that is how that >>>>> should work... but am still struggling a little bit with the concept of >>>>> it >>>>> all. >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 1:47:03 AM UTC-7, Rachel >>>>> Schwartz-Gilbert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to build the folding camp danger model for my yurt this >>>>>> year (first yurt building project here!) but all of the directions seem >>>>>> to >>>>>> be for much larger yurts than my 6' one. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can easily process the directions for the wall panels but am having >>>>>> a little bit of trouble conceptualizing how the roof panels will work. >>>>>> As >>>>>> of now, I have 6 triangles for the roof (3 per each side of the roof - >>>>>> as >>>>>> per the 6' directions) but camp danger uses 12 smaller triangles >>>>>> (basically these 6 cut in half and stretched out). Can I just leave my >>>>>> three triangles per side instead of cutting them in half (and then tight >>>>>> sealing them)? Cutting them seems to benefit transport for the Danger >>>>>> technique but either way mine wont fold up like the bigger yurts so I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> see any real benefit in cutting the triangles in half. Basically, I am >>>>>> trying to figure out if my hinges will all be loose hinges pre-playa >>>>>> since >>>>>> the "tight hinges" would be if I cut my current triangles in half. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am hoping that question makes sense.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you in advance! >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "hexayurt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >
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