I think all this noodling over homeless solutions gets political real
fast... like the moment any kind of organization or "meaningful" scale
presents itself.  It seems to me that this, at the very least, means
coordinating with some kind of larger body - such as a larger organization
already assisting with domicile-related matters, a disaster-related outfit
or government at some level.

Personally, I'd like to see a well thought out path to a good homelessness
solution and contribute where I can to something that will grow organically
and rapidly while wasting as little material and human resources as
possible.  SIPs do seem like they'd fit into such a plan.  I wonder what it
would be like to consider making them if none were available/economic.  I
wonder about designing a flexible transformative capability into them -
allowing them to be used initially, say, in temporary situations and later
gracefully re-used for more permanent structures.

When I got orders for large numbers of hexayurts a few years ago, I set up
a very simple manufacturing facility - hiring and training a few guys who
were probably pretty much like many homeless types - addiction problems,
some prior incarceration, few skills... However, with good simple set-ups
and training their first-off yurt (with bevel cuts etc.) was +- 1/16"
accuracy on the whole assembled, taped polyiso structure.  Could solve a
couple of problems at once...

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:16 AM Cabinz Admin <cabinz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> agree re fire risk, but the materials used in tent cities are a fire risk
> anyway ie tent / tarps
> to reduce fire risk , Could you get clearance stock  / grade b or even
> used of the metal sided kingspan or other  US brand like we have been
> working on on other thread I started here
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/hexayurt/WWoBjoC3_fg
> . I appreciate this then has to be screwed / bolted together
>
>
> On Monday, 3 August 2020 15:58:38 UTC+1, BurnerDan wrote:
>>
>> Hey Guys ~
>>
>> While I do think that the regular hexayurt polyiso panel design works
>> well for Burning Man, I have to confess being a bit nervous about its being
>> used for general homelessness on the streets.  First of all, there is fire
>> risk that we're able to communicate to Burners.  Among other things, that
>> translates into "no cooking" or other open fire in such a yurt.  It's hard
>> for me to imagine that not happening in rain/winter on the street.
>>
>> Some city/large org sponsorship of areas such as secure outdoor parking
>> have appeared, often with showers & toilets.  If these also had communal
>> kitchens and the city/org would set some sort of standard for a yurt (which
>> might not be that hard since they have to deal with tents and sorting any
>> liability re. that anyway. There may also be issues about a
>> possible/eventual waste stream from the yurts since at least the Burner
>> design is so temporary.  So perhaps such entities would be best to work
>> with to get agreement on a design envelope at least acknowledging these and
>> any other issues so we're all clear on this kind of thing.
>>
>> Best,
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 5:24 PM Hal Muskat <pho...@rainbowpuddle.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sf Coalition on Homeless:
>>> http://www.cohsf.org/
>>> https://www.facebook.com/CoalitionOnHomelessness/
>>>
>>> Don’t know if this could be helpful
>>> https://sfhomeless.wikia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Homeless_Resource
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) <
>>> hexa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi everybody, long time no hear.
>>>
>>> I'm having a bit of a think about doing a hexayurt deployment in
>>> California in one of the pre-existing tent cities there. Very early stage,
>>> not even checking feasibility yet, but just putting out some feelers - is
>>> anybody on the ground in California and familiar with how these tent cities
>>> work, and able to advise on how we might practically go about augmenting
>>> their tents with something a bit more habitable.
>>>
>>> I'm really looking for boots-on-the-ground insight. We did a very little
>>> bit of this in London about 10 years ago, very successfully, but local
>>> conditions are king on this kind of work...
>>>
>>> Any advice or helpers?
>>>
>>> V>
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