What about when playing with other instruments (acoustic guitar, violin,
silver flute)... Is there a compromise in terms of temperament, somewhere in
between equal and just?

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:59 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Here's my 2 cents on the temperament issue:
>
> It's all well and good to have the chart showing the variation of each
> note
> from equal temperament, and I speak as a scientist-type who likes things
> to be
> clear, concise, and preferably in a table where I can look them up.  With
> that
> said, I don't think the chart is the best approach.
>
> Here's my strategy for tuning my strings and tangents:
>
> 0.5) Play for a while with the strings pretty much in tune, to get the
> instrument warmed up.  If you do the steps below when the instrument is
> cold,
> you'll have to do it all again when it warms up. Apply fresh cotton to the
> chanters and trompette.
>
> 1) Tune the first chanter to a standard (such as an electronic tuner)
>
> 2) Adjust the chanter nut so that the octave tangent is straight up and
> down.
> The tuner can be helpful here, but your ears should ultimately be able to
> tell
> you when the octave is in tune.
>
> 3) Check that the chanter is still in tune to the standard.
>
> 4) Tune the second chanter to the first.
>
> 5) Adjust the chanter nut of the second chanter, also adjusting the
> tangent so
> that both tangents hit the strings at the same time.
>
> 6) Disengage the second chanter, and tune the trompette by ear to the
> first
> chanter.  Use the appropriate key if you need a reference as to
> approximately
> where to tune the trompette (i.e. a 4th or a 5th) but in the end the
> trompette
> should be tuned to a pure interval with the chanter.  With practice,
> you'll
> know it when you hear it: it will sound "right", as in, "Ah, that's it."
> (If you check the trompette tuning with an electronic tuner, it will be
> "off"
> by a bit.  This is expected, because you used a pure interval.)
>
> 7) Use the trompette as your reference to tune the tangents on the first
> chanter.  Some intervals will be easy to identify as being right, some not
> so
> much - just do the best you can, and practice, and refer to a tuner if
> needed,
> but remember that your ears are the best judge.  Check the tuning between
> the
> chanter and the trompette regularly so that you know that it's still pure.
>
> 8) Disengage the trompette, engage the second chanter, and use your newly
> tuned tangents as the reference point for tuning the tangents on the
> second
> chanter.  Remember that these tangents must not just be in tune with no
> warbles or beats, but must also touch their respective strings at the same
> time.
>
> 9) Use either one or both chanters as the reference for tuning the
> remaining
> drone strings: mouche, petit bourdon, and gros bourdon.
>
> 10) You're in tune: play!
>
> Your mileage may vary on this method, and it's best for just playing with
> other HG's or anyone else in just intonation in your key of choice.
>
> When I started playing HG, I was a tuner addict - the tuner was God, it
> told
> me what the note should be, and I should adjust it to that note or else.
>  I
> first started to realize that something was wrong when I'd tune the C key
> tangents with the tuner and tune my trompette in C by ear to the G
> chanter,
> and find that my C key was discordant with my trompette.  If I tuned my
> trompette with the tuner, it didn't sound as good with the chanter.  Cali
> encouraged me to use my ears more and my tuner less, and I've slowly found
> my
> way away from the electronic aid.  It's not that tuners are inherently
> bad,
> it's just that they don't always give HG players the best advice.
>
> Enjoy, and happy tuning,
>
> Alden
>
>

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