Dear All,
there is a shareware tuner that can be dowloaded at http://www.aptuner.com/cgi-bin/aptuner/apmain.html The tuner is able to display Kirnberger tuning Best regards, Ulrich _____ Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Chris Nogy Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. April 2008 21:56 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re[2]: [HG] temperament question Thanks. Using pure just temperament, I came up with this A3 = -16 cents C4 = +0 cents D4 = +4 cents E4 = -14 cents G4 = +2 cents A4 = -16 cents All from a standard equal temperament tuner set at A4 = 440 There is a very subtle but very real difference in the instrument, block and strum sounds more natural when only 2 strings are open - any interval. There was a tendancy for this instrument to sound, well, off, with the intervals being a bit tinny sounding in equal temperament. It makes sense, since the pentatonic tuning is based on perfect intervals, and there are no perfect intervals in the equal temperament except the octave. Again, thanks for the website, the chart of errors helped me a lot. Now I get some small idea of the improvements that can be made to the intervals between the drones and chanters when they are tuned in just temperament, and since gurdies are not chording instruments (except for the natural chords set up with the drones) the impact on playability would be minimal (until you get to play with other instruments, then I can see a few sour note combinations appearing.) Chris *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/15/2008 at 6:36 PM Kevin Hughes wrote: This site might be helpful: http://www.kirnberger.fsnet.co.uk/ _____ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:01:35 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: [HG] temperament question Sorry, sent before I cleaned it up or changed the subject line. I'll try it again OK, all the talk about experimenting with and playing in different temperaments has got me thinking about other instruments. I just finished an electro-accoustic Germanic Rote, the original of which was dated to 581 AD. Probably not tuned in equal temperament. But was it tuned pythagorean, or some other form? There are some real temperament experts here, and this instrument, since it is not stopped or fretted, seems like a perfect way to experiment. It has 6 strings, all open without any fretting (I can get some intervals in the way a Jouhiko is stopped, and I can draw a primary harmonic at 50% of the string, but it is not a fretted or stopped instrument) It is tuned pentatonic, A3, C4, D4, E4, G4, A4 I use a Korg Chromatic tuner to tune it, and I think that since it contains both a 4th and a seventh, which if I understand are the most different between modern equal and older just temperaments, I will need to do small adjustments. I am tuning equal at A4 = 440, and my tuner will let me see cents and is accurate (I can tune by pludding the instrument in, so I avoid outside noises). Can someone give me a cents difference for each note that would put this instrument into a temperament that would be plausible for the time period that it comes from? Or help me to figure out how to develop that set of values? Thanks Chris _____ Pack up or back upuse SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. <http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _skydrive_packup_042008>
