I would like once again to recommend the following to anyone
interested in this whole tuning situation:

        How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care)
            Ross Duffin   (2007)   ISBN-13: 978-0-393-06227-4

        For those who are intrigued by the history of tuning and its many
styles this is a good read.  Unfortunately, hurdy-gurdies are not mentioned.

Leonard Williams
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On 4/17/08 9:36 AM, "Simon Wascher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Am 17.04.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Augusto de Ornellas Abreu:
> 
>> What about when playing with other instruments
> 
> the same as always. compromises are only needed in cases where one of
> the stiff 12-pitches-per-octav instruments like church organ,
> akkordeon, hurdy gurdy or piano are involved. Those are the
> handycaped ones. And some of them use equal temperament but not by
> far all of them. Church organs, harpsichords, hurdy gurdies and some
> accordeons are not equally tempered for example.
> 
> all the others usually just do intonate in demand. Most brass
> (trombones, horns, trumpets...) do, all fretless strings (violins,
> cellos and doublebass, harps,...), all strings with moveable frets
> (viola da gambas, luths,...), vocalists, many woodwinds - they have
> alternative fingerings for more than 12 pitches per octave, even
> electronic keyboards usually do have just intonation as one of their
> presets,...
> 
> Classical orchestral music is not equal tempered.
> 
>> (acoustic guitar,
> 
> guitar players can bend the string for pitching up. Historical
> guitars have moveable frets.
> 
>> violin
> 
> as said above is completely free in intonation.
> 
>> silver flute
> 
> has alternative fingerings and can be intonated by embouchure.
> 
>> ... Is there a compromise in terms of temperament, somewhere in
>> between equal and just?
> 
> Many compromises have been worked out for any musical situation
> involving stiff pitched instruments, during all periodes of music,
> documented as far back as documentation goes. But in general, 90% of
> all music made is not in equal temperament. If a free intonating
> instrument meets a handycaped stiff intonating one it will just
> follow the limited possibilities of that.
> Equal temperament is a solution for a small group of handicaped
> instruments used to play all keys like all the free intonating
> instruments do. Out of what ever funny reason these handfull of stiff
> intonaters today occupy the position of opinion leaders.
> That most basic musical education declares equal temperament as
> standard does just tell about the inferior quality of todays basic
> musical education, but nothing about music.
> 
> kind regards
> 
> Simon Wascher - Vienna, Austria
> 
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> 
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