For theory and practice of tuning a hurdy gurdy pure to the drones (more or less natural harmonic tempereament) you can consult my article on http://www.orfeo-fiato.nl/hurdy_gurdy_tuning.html
and the article of Graham Whyte: http://www.luthiers60.freeserve.co.uk/pdfs/JustTangentPositions.pdf For barock music, especially playing duets on hg, a modification of Kirnberger II is described biy Matthias Loibner. I add the corresponding part of an email by Matthias Loibner for this tuning: Ernic: Matthias Loibner wrote: So I just want to add the tunings I play to the list of "possible" hurdy-gurdy tunings. I play this tuning (Kirnberger II) in many cases on my baroque instrument: G +2 Ab -7.8 A -4.9 Bb -3.9 B -11.7 C 0 Db -9.8 D +3.9 Eb -5.9 E -13.7 F -2.0 F# -9.8 [just: Db-Ab-Eb-Bb-F-C-G-D, C-E, G-B, D-F#] I usually tune the low A sharper than the higher one, which is easier to bend. On my modern instrument I play all well tempered except: C, D, E, F, G, B (just) and A (around -5) playing music for me is 80% listening and 20% playing. regards, Matthias 2008/6/17, Jens Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I have the same problem, I also play in G, C, D both minor and major. It is > for example not possible to tune the A exactly to G, C and D, which gives > especially problems if I use matching drones. For a long time I tried to > find the best compromise (always depending on the music I played during a > period), but meanwhile I prefer to use a temperated tuning with a few > exeptions (e.g. the e matching exactly to c). It gives less fun to play > barock-music but makes life easier and most of the auditory doesn't realise > the difference. > > I never had special problems playing with other melody instrumenst as > flute, recorder, violin, ... no matter wheter I play equal or temperated > tuned. > > But in my experience drone instuments don't fit well with guitar (rhythm > not picking) - there are always a lot of queer notes resulting from the > guitar's chords and the drones. If I play together with guitar I sense the > sound very "swampy". By time I have a trio with violin/viola and cello, a > combination I like very much. > > What are your experiences? > > Jens > > > > Augusto de Ornellas Abreu schrieb: > >> One thing I never understood quite well, and I have asked and no one ever >> gave me a straight answer... >> For my particular situation, in which I am going to play in a band with >> the following instruments >> acoustic guitar >> bass (either bass acoustic guitar or eletric bass) >> silver flute >> recorder or clarinet or tinwhistle (one of them, since it's the same >> player!) >> violin (probably tuned in just/perfect fifths) >> voice >> (percussion) >> and provided I stick to regular HG tunes in G major, G minor (both with a >> D trompette), C major and C minor (both with a C trompette - I have a capo >> on my trompette for that), and maybe D and D minor (disengaging the G and g >> chanterelles, engaging the D chanterelle (3rd chanterelle) and playing with >> a D trompette and raising a drone to D) >> Can I tune my HG to just temperment and still play this standard HG tunes >> with my mates? Remember, the two other main melodic instruments - the violin >> (in perfect fifths) and the flute - are pretty fluid in intonation, but the >> guitar and the bass aren't that much because of the frets... >> Will we sound better than if I just give up and accept the imperfection >> of equal temperment? >> I like Graham's article a lot and I intend to experiment just temperment >> on myself, but I want to know if I will sound any better in the band using >> these adjustments. >> Cheers >> Augusto Ornellas >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Graham Whyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> You could also look at my paper >> "Tuning and Temperament" >> I presented it at the 2002 Over the Water Festival >> Discussion of the advantages of not using Equal Temperament on the >> Hurdy >> Gurdy. >> Includes instructions for setting Just Temperament with a standard >> tuning >> meter >> >> You can find it at >> http://www.hurdygurdy.org/resources.html >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk<HurdyGurdyForum%2540yahoogroups.co.uk> >> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk<HurdyGurdyForum%2540yahoogroups.co.uk>>]On >> Behalf Of Steve Evans >> Sent: 13 June 2008 13:51 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> <mailto:HurdyGurdyForum%40yahoogroups.co.uk<HurdyGurdyForum%2540yahoogroups.co.uk> >> > >> Subject: [HurdyGurdyForum] Intonation and tuning >> >> Hi All, >> >> for those of you with an interest in intonation in relation to the >> hurdy gurdy, I've just come across a top article on the web.It >> includes a vey practical hands-on guide. 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