Well, with Hen's (and the rest of youg) help, I'm sure I can handle it. I'm willing to throw my hat in the ring. I really think HiveMind deserves to be a stand-alone project. So, should we go ahead and start a vote to move to TLP?
-----Original Message----- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:06 AM To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org Subject: Re: [DICUSS] Move from Jakarta to Tapestry PMC? You have my +1 as a chair too. Jakarta is a very bad example of the role of a chair - umbrellas create a lot of bureacracy and I make the mistake of letting myself get sucked into it. Ideally the chair role is: 1) Organizing the move to TLP. Howard's going through this one at the moment. It's basically a set of infra requests and tasks. I'm semi-Infra nowadays, so can help move these things along if you nudge me. First off though: Have a vote to move to TLP, have 3 Jakarta PMC members on that vote, inform the PMC. Then write a resolution (copy Tapestry's) that I can submit to the board. 2) Subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] As with any list it goes through ups and downs in terms of noise. Currently it's quite quiet. 3) Sending in a board report every three months (every month for the first three months). In the case of tight TLP, like hivemind.apache.org, this is an easy thing to do (I think). You know what's going on and you don't have to spend weeks chasing up on things, you just sit down and write it, let the PMC see the draft a little bit in advance and send it in. They're often about 6 lines long, not the behemoth that the Jakarta report is. It's really not that big a deal. I'll also be joining the pmc list (unless you'd prefer me not to) and can help out if you hit any issues. Hen On 3/16/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, I guess my reluctant hand-raise has been taken as a nomination. What > is involved in being a TLP chair? > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Harish Krishnaswamy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:10 PM > To: hivemind-dev@jakarta.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DICUSS] Move from Jakarta to Tapestry PMC? > > > > > I agree, other than the issue of finding a chair I can't see a reason for it > to be under Tapestry. I am sorry, currently I am scrambling for time and > with a baby on the way I don't think its going to get any better. I see > James has volunteered and fully support him +1. > > -Harish > > > > > On 3/15/06, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think it is desirable to move out of Jakarta. > > However, we would need to identify someone to be the HiveMind chair. > I got "suckered" into that for the Tapestry TLP. I'm simply stating > the fact that I don't want the job (I have too many already). So we > would need to identify someone how wants/is capable of being the chair > for HiveMind as a prerequisite for even discussing a HiveMind TLP. > > It some ways, it would be easier to move HiveMind under the Tapestry > TLP. It's not by pure chance that "all Tapestry's most rocking > features derive from HiveMind". > > On 3/15/06, Massimo Lusetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/14/06, Achim Hügen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't regard hivemind as a tapestry subproject. > > > It's usable standalone and not targeted at tapestry and web > applications > > > only. > > > > That's fair. > > Having HiveMind as a TLP means more bureaucratic works so i guess the > > deal is if anyone would like to handle that, so my choice (at least as > > a first step) would be to be a Tapestry subproject rather then Jakarta > > ones. > > > > Indeed HiveMind live very well as a standalone framework, it's simply > > great, i think the most Tapestry's rocking features derive from having > > HiveMind inside. > > > > As always my 2 cents > > -- > > Massimo > > http://meridio.blogspot.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant > Creator, Jakarta Tapestry > Creator, Jakarta HiveMind > > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]