"> manip, you suggested things to valve about security after the fact that
> this events occured, this like a psychic telling you the future from
> three days ago. honestly, how useful is that? if you suggested these
> things a few months ago then it might be useful but now your just
> stating the could ofs and  should ofs...  "
I didn't say anything about their security (in this list...?)

The rest is your opinion and your entitled to it :) I do not support
violating  IP /
Copyright and do not encourage anyone to do it for whatever reason. I was
just
suggesting what *could be done.

----- Original Message -----
From: "mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Re: HL2 Source Leaked


> I'm really pissed off today.
> i really pissed off from what manip said: "But from a development point
> of view I really hope the HLDS source has been leaked, it will give us
> the opportunity to develop the type of server we have always wanted but
> never had. It will allow us to link into something better than Vac and
> to improve the half-life experience. "
> Manip from a development point of view its your best interest to respect
> these rights. if you do not respect them then why should other people
> respect the rights of things you created? I really hate even developers,
> programmers in specific, when they violate IP rights, from using warezs
> to using stolen code. the second thing manip said that made my blood
> boiled was his cockyness and the fact that he thinks he can make HLDS
> much better. this really annoys me because he, i think, believes that
> violating the these to make something better justifies his cause of
> violating the rights. also, he believes he can do a better job then the
> programmers at valve. i, like someone else on this list, i think, feels
> that this is an insult to valve. tei, you i believe are worse then
tei, i would also like to say
> that YOU fill my inbox with useless crap and this crap provide nothing
> as in meaningful content, good questions or awnsers, to the list.
> anyways, to sum up my rant, i really dont see why people submit
> criticism that isn't constructive, that also includes should of and
> could of type statements, and provide suggestions that are down right
> stupid.  yeah, i know, this is a pretty stupid post, not really by
> providing meaningfull content, and i know i just shot my own foot by
> sending this in. oh well, just my opinion.
> Stan Bubrouski wrote:
>
> > Manip wrote:
> >
> >> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> I do feel sorry for valve and I can't even imagine what is going on
> >> in the company right now. But from a development point of view I
> >> really hope the HLDS source has been leaked, it will give us the
> >> opportunity to develop the type of server we have always wanted but
> >> never had. It will allow us to link into something better than Vac
> >> and to improve the half-life experience.
> >> --
> >>
> >
> > No it won't.  That source is stolen property of Valve
> > Software L.L.C. and if you distribute it or modify
> > and distribute it you are contributing to the downfall
> > of Valve and of HL2.  And more than likely you will
> > face civil and legal charges.  To clarify it is not
> > ok to have the HL2 source at all, and frankly posting
> > about having it is a bad idea.
> >
> > -sb
> >
> >>
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