Sadly NTL's abuse department (if it even exists) is about as effective as an untrained monkey with some rubber wirecutters.
-EvilGrin -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian A. Stumm Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Re: Re: Re: HL2 Source This mail is to notify you of illegal activity by your internet subscriber. Your customer has admitted repeatedly on list.valvesoftware.com to possessing stolen source code from the recent break in to valvesoftware.com where in source code to the highly anticipated half life 2 source code was stolen by illegal means. I encourage you to check your logs to see if a file entitled hl2_src.rar was downloaded by your customer and implore you to report your findings to your local authorities, US FBI as well as valvesoftware.com. Your customer may feel that since this code was obtained through illegal manner that HE is permitted to download said code but that doesn't change anything. This is copywritted intellectual property that was obtained through illegal means. He feels that he has some "educational" licenese to view said source but obtained no such license from the owner of said source code, valvesoftware. I implore you to take action, if you do not then I will take your lack of action as support for illegal activities by your customers. And will elevate this complaint further. Thank you for your immediate attention to this matter. -------- HEADERS: -------- Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from list.valvesoftware.com (mail.list.valvesoftware.com [207.173.176.202]) by bs-linux.com (8.11.6/linuxconf) with ESMTP id h95JdXF05225 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:39:33 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com) by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6Eay-00014I-00; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:31:08 -0700 Received: from [207.44.152.105] (helo=DD1.TheDryDock.Net) by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6EaH-0000yD-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:30:25 -0700 X-ClientAddr: 80.3.177.6 Received: from utserver (public1-fare1-3-cust6.cosh.broadband.ntl.com [80.3.177.6]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by DD1.TheDryDock.Net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h95JVQN17416 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:31:28 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Manip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Re: Re: Re: HL2 Source MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0.9, required 8, OPPORTUNITY_2 1.26, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT -0.48, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0.55, REFERENCES -0.50) content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk ----------------- original message: ----------------- On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Manip wrote: > > http://www.justinrossetti.com/albums/HalfLife2/hl2_death.jpg > > hahaha. I wouldn't want to work for valve right now either. Worse I wouldn't > want to be the guy that got his > account broken into, if it was his fault or not. Just generally not a good > day, and I don't think a few developers > talking openly about the source they know we have is going to make things > worse. I'm not planning to develop > games with it but I am curious about how they did certain things so the > label 'for education use only' kind fits the > bill. Most developers that have blood going though their vanes can't resist > information and something like this where > you have the unique opportunity to see how the pro's are doing it is too > good to resist. I have nothing against valve and > don't plan on making a penny off of their hard work but me looking over code > that is already public doesn't hurt anyone > so stop slamming me just because I'm open unlike all of you that are looking > but don't want to talk about it. > > Please stop going on about IP, I am not selling it, I am not making money > off of it, they can sue me for every penny > I have made off the half-life 2 source, duh..... > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > -- a8888b. Brian A. Stumm d888888b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8P"YP"Y88 http://www.bs-linux.com 8|o||o|88 The Choice of a Gnu Generation 8' .88 8`._.' Y8. # d/ `8b. #### ### .dP . 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