Little children could we stay on topic like grown ups?

The subject is STEAM, we shared our points. If nobody has something to
say that could make this 'discussion' fruitable, i'd say, we stop this
discussion right now.

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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 21:04
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure


Ok we are about to go round in circles here.

He was calling ME a noob.

And i don't think you get my other points.


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:58:58 +0200, Dan Partelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
> >>decided to  write here,"
>
> I still fail to see how a user which labels himself as a "non -noob"
> performs an offense. As for the other stuff you write ""points they
> launch into insults or "I'm a game developer""
> it might be or not the truth. Its not so important. The guy has some
points.
>
> >>I would expect most
> >> people here to have industry experience or to have
>
> You could not be more wrong. If you read the archives here you will
> see monuments of stupidity, coming from ppl which obviously have no
> ideea what they are talking of.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
>
> >" I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
> >decided to  write here,"
> >
> > That is very much of an insult.
> >
> > And usually when someone can't backup their points they launch into
> > insults or "I'm a game developer" "I've been working with PC's all
> > my life" type i'm better then you so that means my points are more
> > validated then you.
> >
> > Well no shit sherlock(pardon my french) Being on a list dealing with

> > a highly specialised subject like programming. I would expect most
> > people here to have industry experience or to have worked with
> > computers a substantial amount of time.
> >
> > Jan 2005 20:59:04 +0200, Dan Partelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Aint we a little sesitive today ? I dont see any insult. You are
> >> oversensitive.
> >>
> >> And no, personal insults do not invalidate good points. They are
> >> only that, insults , and they shouldnt be posted , thats true, but
> >> they dont invalidate per se an argument.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ben Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
> >>
> >> >" I am not a
> >> > noob who found link to this mailing list today and just decided
> >> >to  write here,"
> >> >
> >> > Nice personal insults :thumbsup:
> >> >
> >> > Then you go on to call me a fanboy in other words.
> >> >
> >> > As soon as you started with the personal insults it immediatly
> >> > invalidates all your arguments.
> >> >
> >> > I'll be stepping out of this "rant" as you failed to counter any
> >> > of my points, but hey you insulted me personally with bad facts,
> >> > so it's all good?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:36:14 +0200, Vyacheslav Djura
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Ben,
> >> >>
> >> >> Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 3:57:16 PM, you wrote:
> >> >> BD> www.steampowered.com
> >> >> Please be more careful reading my letter - I told you that we
> >> >> HAVE TRIED several times and they just ignored us. The only
> >> >> thing I received (3 or 4 weeks ago) was some letter "your
> >> >> question is in the queue for answer" and still no reply. Not
> >> >> telling that I've used steampowered.com to find out what's wrong

> >> >> with HL2 because everything was red in game - again, no answer.
> >> >>
> >> >> I work in game industry and know people from another companies
> >> >> (who also might read this letter) and they all agree that idea
> >> >> of Steam is great, but Steam itself is a big problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's just imagine, what will be with all those people who have
> >> >> purchased Half-Life 2 if Valve would decide suddenly to quit
> >> >> game business? Who will play Half-Life 2 then? No one.
> >> >>
> >> >> BD> Vivendi's area of concern not valve.
> >> >> Stefan already wrote you regarding this.
> >> >>
> >> >> BD> Windows XP and countless other programs you buy retail and
> >> >> BD> have to
> >> >> activate it.
> >> >> A lot of PC's are sold with already installed Windows XP and
> >> >> those who can't reinstall it usually call to some service
> >> >> center. As for "countless other programs" I haven't seen any.
> >> >> And hey, I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list
> >> >> today and just decided to write here, I work with computers as
> >> >> long as I remember myself.
> >> >>
> >> >> BD> See that's funny because every PC I have tried to get steam
> >> >> BD> to run
> >> >> in
> >> >> BD> offline mode has worked. It's usually the fault of something

> >> >> BD> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> BD> users part when offline does not work.
> >> >> It worked for 2 or 3 weeks. We have followed all the steps in
> >> >> Valve Steam FAQ, we have made backup of .blob file.
> >> >>
> >> >> BD> And for original poster, steam is currently using 0 CPU and
> >> >> BD> 2 megs
> >> >> of
> >> >> BD> ram, it's not just a gui steam acts as an interface for a
> >> >> BD> virtual filesystem aswell.
> >> >> We also had such CPU usage of your lovely Steam on every our PC.
> >> >>
> >> >> You love your Steam so much, but there are so many other people
> >> >> who don't like it. I can tell you that as admin of
> >> >> http://www.hl2source.com who receives a lot "positive" feedback
> >> >> about Steam.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>  Vyacheslav
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> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > - Ben Davison
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> >> >
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