Or be quick enough to press cancel when it's loading up :P But if you
have an internet connection it loads up in about 1 second flat for me.

"I don't want to rant about steam, but the above statment is imho a pretty
lame excuse"

As was most of the above posters points.

Valve might have a teeny bit of influence but with most games the
publisher gets the final say with any physical packaging.


On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:02:54 +0100, S. Hendriks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for offline mode, if you have been online before with it. You should
> be able to go offline. In fact, all you need to do is have NO internet
> connection.
>
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
> Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 14:57
> Aan: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: Re: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
>
>
> "Why? Let's talk here, because it seems that there is no other
> "official" place where we can talk about that."
>
> www.steampowered.com
>
> "Packaging is poor - discs are in envelopes, they are just useless
> without Steam and there is even no manual!!! What a shame."
>
> Vivendi's area of concern not valve.
>
> "Why they had to make retail version to work only with Steam? If people
> buy retail it means that they do not want any online activations and
> all."
>
> Windows XP and countless other programs you buy retail and have to
> activate it.
>
> "Steam just refused to work offline,"
>
> See that's funny because every PC I have tried to get steam to run in
> offline mode has worked. It's usually the fault of something on the
> users part when offline does not work.
>
> Please take this ranting off this mailing list and on to
> www.steampowered.com the steam team does not frequent this mailing list
> so there is exactly 0 point in ranting here.
>
> And for original poster, steam is currently using 0 CPU and 2 megs of
> ram, it's not just a gui steam acts as an interface for a virtual
> filesystem aswell.
>
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:09:15 +0200, Vyacheslav Djura
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello knighthk,
> >
> > Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 1:27:22 AM, you wrote:
> > kgn> Okay now this is definately off-topic. Let's not have a
> > kgn> steam-flame here, please..
> > Why? Let's talk here, because it seems that there is no other
> > "official" place where we can talk about that.
> >
> > I also think that idea behind Steam is good, especially for us, game
> > developers, but Steam itself and Half-Life 2 retail packaging are just
>
> > awfull and this is a negative feedback to Valve and Sierra. Packaging
> > is poor - discs are in envelopes, they are just useless without Steam
> > and there is even no manual!!! What a shame.
> >
> > Why they had to make retail version to work only with Steam? If people
>
> > buy retail it means that they do not want any online activations and
> > all.
> >
> > Our team has decided to cancel HL2 port of Decay and do only HL1 port
> > because of Steam because Steam just refused to work offline, though we
>
> > have followed every step of Valve's instructions. Interesting that I
> > wrote several times to official Steam support, wrote to forums and ask
>
> > a question and still received no reply and that happened 3 weeks ago.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Vyacheslav                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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