I will bow out of this topic, this was just flamebait in the first place.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:17:51 +0100, S. Hendriks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Little children could we stay on topic like grown ups?
>
> The subject is STEAM, we shared our points. If nobody has something to
> say that could make this 'discussion' fruitable, i'd say, we stop this
> discussion right now.
>
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
> Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 21:04
> Aan: [email protected]
> Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
>
>
> Ok we are about to go round in circles here.
>
> He was calling ME a noob.
>
> And i don't think you get my other points.
>
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:58:58 +0200, Dan Partelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >>I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
> > >>decided to  write here,"
> >
> > I still fail to see how a user which labels himself as a "non -noob"
> > performs an offense. As for the other stuff you write ""points they
> > launch into insults or "I'm a game developer""
> > it might be or not the truth. Its not so important. The guy has some
> points.
> >
> > >>I would expect most
> > >> people here to have industry experience or to have
> >
> > You could not be more wrong. If you read the archives here you will
> > see monuments of stupidity, coming from ppl which obviously have no
> > ideea what they are talking of.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
> >
> > >" I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
> > >decided to  write here,"
> > >
> > > That is very much of an insult.
> > >
> > > And usually when someone can't backup their points they launch into
> > > insults or "I'm a game developer" "I've been working with PC's all
> > > my life" type i'm better then you so that means my points are more
> > > validated then you.
> > >
> > > Well no shit sherlock(pardon my french) Being on a list dealing with
>
> > > a highly specialised subject like programming. I would expect most
> > > people here to have industry experience or to have worked with
> > > computers a substantial amount of time.
> > >
> > > Jan 2005 20:59:04 +0200, Dan Partelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Aint we a little sesitive today ? I dont see any insult. You are
> > >> oversensitive.
> > >>
> > >> And no, personal insults do not invalidate good points. They are
> > >> only that, insults , and they shouldnt be posted , thats true, but
> > >> they dont invalidate per se an argument.
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Ben Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: <[email protected]>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:11 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
> > >>
> > >> >" I am not a
> > >> > noob who found link to this mailing list today and just decided
> > >> >to  write here,"
> > >> >
> > >> > Nice personal insults :thumbsup:
> > >> >
> > >> > Then you go on to call me a fanboy in other words.
> > >> >
> > >> > As soon as you started with the personal insults it immediatly
> > >> > invalidates all your arguments.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'll be stepping out of this "rant" as you failed to counter any
> > >> > of my points, but hey you insulted me personally with bad facts,
> > >> > so it's all good?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:36:14 +0200, Vyacheslav Djura
> > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> Hello Ben,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 3:57:16 PM, you wrote:
> > >> >> BD> www.steampowered.com
> > >> >> Please be more careful reading my letter - I told you that we
> > >> >> HAVE TRIED several times and they just ignored us. The only
> > >> >> thing I received (3 or 4 weeks ago) was some letter "your
> > >> >> question is in the queue for answer" and still no reply. Not
> > >> >> telling that I've used steampowered.com to find out what's wrong
>
> > >> >> with HL2 because everything was red in game - again, no answer.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I work in game industry and know people from another companies
> > >> >> (who also might read this letter) and they all agree that idea
> > >> >> of Steam is great, but Steam itself is a big problem.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Let's just imagine, what will be with all those people who have
> > >> >> purchased Half-Life 2 if Valve would decide suddenly to quit
> > >> >> game business? Who will play Half-Life 2 then? No one.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> BD> Vivendi's area of concern not valve.
> > >> >> Stefan already wrote you regarding this.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> BD> Windows XP and countless other programs you buy retail and
> > >> >> BD> have to
> > >> >> activate it.
> > >> >> A lot of PC's are sold with already installed Windows XP and
> > >> >> those who can't reinstall it usually call to some service
> > >> >> center. As for "countless other programs" I haven't seen any.
> > >> >> And hey, I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list
> > >> >> today and just decided to write here, I work with computers as
> > >> >> long as I remember myself.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> BD> See that's funny because every PC I have tried to get steam
> > >> >> BD> to run
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> BD> offline mode has worked. It's usually the fault of something
>
> > >> >> BD> on
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> BD> users part when offline does not work.
> > >> >> It worked for 2 or 3 weeks. We have followed all the steps in
> > >> >> Valve Steam FAQ, we have made backup of .blob file.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> BD> And for original poster, steam is currently using 0 CPU and
> > >> >> BD> 2 megs
> > >> >> of
> > >> >> BD> ram, it's not just a gui steam acts as an interface for a
> > >> >> BD> virtual filesystem aswell.
> > >> >> We also had such CPU usage of your lovely Steam on every our PC.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You love your Steam so much, but there are so many other people
> > >> >> who don't like it. I can tell you that as admin of
> > >> >> http://www.hl2source.com who receives a lot "positive" feedback
> > >> >> about Steam.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Best regards,
> > >> >>  Vyacheslav
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> > >> >>
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> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
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