Actually this was the already optimized (hotpatched) version, this particular map as released has 1739 base ents (I thought the limit was 4096 back then).
There were very few prop_dynamics on the map (especially for hl2dm which is usually littered with stuff). It's really just a very extensive map - could have been a lot larger too except for this problem. Players really like the map but with a 9-player limit the action just isn't the same. I suspect the spawn with ents is contributing a bit, but by spawning with a weapon selection I was able to remove a lot of ents from around the map which helped the overall performance. I did try compiling a test mod with a higher edict limit but missed something and it still acted the same. Some of the other game engines have larger edict counts (those I could find numbers for): =============== Historical Edict limits =============== quake1: 600 quake2: 1024 - noted "must change protocol to increase more" fitzquake080: was 600, increased to 1024 -max 8192, limited by network protocol Win/GLQuake 1.31 (May 25 2006): 4096 RTCW (wolfenstein): 2048 HL1: 900 HL2 (Source engine): 2048 RedOrchestra: 4096 Maybe when HL2DM is ported over to OB the engine->AllowImmediateEdictReuse(); could be implemented in it, perhaps as a server CVAR. Just as a point of reference, dm_powerhouse has 1241 base entities with one player, with 16 players it dances just at the very limit. Thanks Robin, your feedback is very much appreciated. KevinO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of Half-Life Programming" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Map reset. > My suggestion would be to remove entities. 1599 with 1 player in the > server is pretty damn crazy. TF2 doesn't reach that with 24 players, and > it generates a lot of projectile weapons. Do you have lots of > prop_dynamics you can change to prop_static? > > Robin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin > Ottalini > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:16 AM > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Map reset. > > Robin, any suggestions for the Edict problem in stock HL2DM (other then > lobotomizing the map)? > I've been running into this limit on recent custom maps. > > HL2DM custom map, current ents = 1599 with one player > map crashes with 9 players eventually (might take several hours) > > 2048-1599 = 499/9 = 50 dynamic ents per player (confirmed dynamic ents > per > player) > > 16 players * 51 dynamic ents per player (+1 margin) = 816 dynamic ents > total > > 2048 max ents - 816 = 1232 MAX base ents for any map in HL2DM > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John" > To: "Discussion of Half-Life Programming" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Map reset. > > >> Many thanks Robin, engine->AllowImmediateEdictReuse(); worked a treat > :) >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Mark Chandler wrote: >> >>> They are not being cleaned up properly. Had same problem with weapon >>> spawns >>> on ges. Make sure you remove all pointers and memory allocation for > the >>> weapons. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:53 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [hlcoders] Map reset. >>> >>> When the map is reset in my mod (with more than 10 players), I get > the >>> error >>> 'No free edicts'. I've tracked it down to the weapons given to the >>> players >>> on spawn, each receiving about 6 weapons each. Is there anything I > can do >>> to? (yes i've even tried it on a empty map) > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
