Hello Pete,

Saturday, October 20, 2001, 7:17:16 PM, you wrote:


Pete,

     If it offers any consolation (which I know it won't) you are not
     alone  - I have been running our TFC server since the very
     beginning of HLDS/TFC came out and we are experiencing problems
     too.  I have several degrees in computer technology, so I have
     done my homework on this just as you have.  There IS a bug
     exploit out there that crashes the server on a long playername
     (YABOB - Yet Another Buffer Overflow Bug) - but if I recall, this
     was only via Admin Mod.  Please see adminmod.org for this
     reference.

     Between the cheats, the unstability and other anomalous behavior,
     we also have lost a majority of our guests.  I can only hope
     Valve is working on some new code.  It might be helpful to them
     if they released their server software to a SELECT group of
     beta-testers who run a DS so initial reports can assist them in
     fixing erroneous problems before they plague the entire TFC
     community.  This would entail admins running all different
     platforms and verious setups - to cover a wider scope.  Ex. -
     some running AM, some not.  Some on Win95/98 - others W2K. Etc. -
     you get the idea.

     Hope you get things working.

     -Dirk
     Admin, East Coast TFC I & II

PC> To the folks at Valve,

PC> I run a popular TFC server -- "Pete's Avanti/Dustbowl server at
PC> 64.81.165.122:27015"  I'm #6 for TFC servers on theclq.com.

PC> I've been having nothing but problems with build 4108, and 4108b beta.
PC> HoundDawg has stated them on the message boards before and I need to
PC> underscore the seriousness of these bugs.  Players are getting increasingly
PC> frustrated with the game play and are giving up on TFC.  I think TFC is a
PC> great game but I'm about to chuck the whole thing in if these problems are
PC> not addressed.

PC> Here are the two big problems:

PC> 1.  Server crashes.  About twice a day, the server goes nuts and quits.  I'm
PC> running serverdoc, which restarts the server.  But the server quits again
PC> and again and again, maybe 5 times or more, before it finally "stabilizes"
PC> and things work okay until the next hiccup.  Nothing is written to the logs,
PC> but I did notice once that there was some sort of network error listed in
PC> the hlds console window -- the problem is that the console window disappears
PC> before I get a chance to read it!

PC> 2. I lose HALF my players on EVERY SINGLE map change.  These players have
PC> trouble picking a team when a map starts.  The only way they can join the
PC> game is to disconnect from the server and reconnect.

PC> About my configuration:
PC>     -- I'm running on Windows 2000 Server
PC>     -- The server runs 24 players.
PC>     -- 4107 ran PERFECTLY for months and months without any problems
PC>     -- I'm running 4108b2 right now, but the problems exist in 4108 too.
PC>     -- I'm running hlstats on the same machine as the TFC server, which
PC> collects stats from this and another server of mine.
PC>     -- My machine has plenty of CPU and memory  (over 100MB free physical
PC> memory, CPU runs at about 30% with a full server)
PC>     -- I have plenty of spare bandwith (1.1MB SDSL)
PC>     -- sv_minrate is 3000 and sv_maxrate is 5000
PC>     -- I run the latest admin mod with some custom scripts (this is not the
PC> culprit, see below)

PC> I have tried a handful of things to try and isolate the problem.  I'll list
PC> them below.

PC> --Bad install: ruled out.  I reinstalled a virgin copy of 4108 FROM SCRATCH
PC> and still have the same problems.
PC> --Firewall: ruled out. I have a Sonicwall Soho2 Firewall. I took it
PC> COMPLETELY out of my network for several hours and TFC was still having
PC> problems
PC> --Admin mod: ruled out.  I normally run the admin mod (latest version
PC> 2.50.07 with 1.10.0.0 metamod.dll)  I encountered the bugs *without* admin
PC> mod installed, although I'm running the server now with admin mod.

PC> I think it really boils down to problems with build 4108.

PC> I am more than happy to provide anyone at Valve anything else they need to
PC> help fix these problems!!  TFC's a great game, but we're starting to lose
PC> people to other mp games.  It's frustrating for me, and especially
PC> frustrating for the players, who complain to me bitterly about it.

PC> I appreciate any help.  Thanks in advance!

PC> Pete Claar
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