ofcourse there'd be more players on the Steam network versus WON prior to the shutdown. CS 1.6 upgrade accounts for most of it. The people are upgrading to Steam weather they like it or not. They know that Valve will soon discontinue support for a previous version. I must say though, I hate Steam. It's quite unrealiable at times. It also uses up extra CPU and memory resource that I could be using on something else, like say, the game itself? I don't see why Steam the application is necessary. i don't need the instant messenger, i don't need the games menu, and I don't need some other stuff while Im playing. In my opinion they should make a version of CS that uses the Steam network but doesn't require you to have the Steam client installed. I'd be happy to put some extra juice from my CPU and Memory into my gaming experience. The WON system was easy to work with . You didn't need to create an account. You didn't need to login to anything. It was much easier to work with. It was straight forward. To play you would click on Counter-Strike on the desktop and then enter the IP address of a server or find one then connect and play. With Steam it makes the process longer. Sometimes my friends find servers that still has 2 or 3 players, and back in the 1.5 days, i'd launch The All Seeing Eye, then select the server from my list of usuals, and connect immediatly sealing my spot on the server. Now days I have to click on the CS icon on my dekstop, click Find Server, then click favourites, and choose the server I want, start the session and wait while Steam is downloading this, and downloading that... it's annoying. Steam also tries to replace the beloved command based console with graphical GUI's. Sure its easier to use for the average joe that wants to play. But they didn't have to GUIfy the dedicated server. In my opinion Steam is one of the more useless things that are running in my Task Manager. Yet it seems to be using up resource it doens't need. But then again thats my opinion. What is it worth in a big newsletter like this where it was meant for Windows server admins to discus certain subjects. But I do think that Valve deserves a well DOSS attack. The WON was one of the most innovative things in CS, and most of us only realise it's importance now that it's near its death. Leaving some a slow, paintful, and forceful transition to the infamous Steam network. Dear WON, may you rest in peace...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 19:47:27 -0400, Shane Robinett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you over estimate the people who like WON versus STEAM. > > 2/3 of the players play on the STEAM network versus the WON network prior to > the shut down. This is evident by comparing # of players shown @ > STEAMPOWERED.COM status page versus the max players found at > gamespy.com/stats or w00t.net or serverspy's numbers. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ooks Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Denial of service? > > > Would not be surprised. If Valve were to ask the players and admins who > > wants Steam, and who wants WON, the overwhelming majority would still vote > > for WON. There are a lot of people pissed about WON being shut off. I > don't > > condone DOS attacks, but Valve pretty much asked for it this time. I think > > that Valve and Steam are going to have a rough week. > > > > > > > > > > > I assume the recent problems are DOS attacks by idiots in response to > the > > > shutdown of WON? Feel free to discuss. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- laylow|*Firefox*[tt] The Laylow Clan (www.thelaylowclan.tk) Atomic Lane (www.angkorwat-tour.com) Site Administrator _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

