Problems with WON and compared with Steam
1) WON servers went down now and then. Steam has problems and hits
a speed bump here and there.
2) When there was an update and you didn't follow the forums or
counter- strike.net you found out the hard way. Steam, well.. it
updates automatically for you.
3) CS beta and retail updates delivered by mirrors (btw, thanks to
you all) and sometimes could take a couple of days (unless you stood
in front of you monitor waiting for the perfect timing for you
download. Steam, well, it does this quicker and I believe Valve
has made it so both server and client are updated quicker.
4) Cheating, Hacking.. Exploits.. what ever you want to call it.
WON, no support except 3rd party programs. Steam, dynamic
delivery of VAC and security updates make it a *safer place to
play...IMO. CD and others may have done this as well but at least
Steam supports its own and 3rd party.
5) CS 1.5> had slightly smaller requirements.. but then again..
eventually, you will have to upgrade.
6) CS1.5/*WON had this wonderful cmd prompt... oh.. yes.. It is
still there in Steam's version and you still use the cmd promt/cmd
line hlds
to start your dedicated services although they do offer a GUI
for your *not-so-experienced* or lazy (hehe) admin.
7) Quote from post below " But I do think that Valve deserves a
well DOSS attack. The WON was one of the most innovative things in
CS" Bud, that is a lame attitude and may somebody unplug your
connection for you quickly before you hurt yourself.
Steam, the evolution of game content delivery. Try it, Mikey likes it.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Ly
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Denial of service?
ofcourse there'd be more players on the Steam network versus WON prior
to the shutdown. CS 1.6 upgrade accounts for most of it. The people
are upgrading to Steam weather they like it or not. They know that
Valve will soon discontinue support for a previous version. I must say
though, I hate Steam. It's quite unrealiable at times. It also uses up
extra CPU and memory resource that I could be using on something else,
like say, the game itself? I don't see why Steam the application is
necessary. i don't need the instant messenger, i don't need the games
menu, and I don't need some other stuff while Im playing. In my
opinion they should make a version of CS that uses the Steam network
but doesn't require you to have the Steam client installed. I'd be
happy to put some extra juice from my CPU and Memory into my gaming
experience. The WON system was easy to work with . You didn't need to
create an account. You didn't need to login to anything. It was much
easier to work with. It was straight forward. To play you would click
on Counter-Strike on the desktop and then enter the IP address of a
server or find one then connect and play. With Steam it makes the
process longer. Sometimes my friends find servers that still has 2 or
3 players, and back in the 1.5 days, i'd launch The All Seeing Eye,
then select the server from my list of usuals, and connect immediatly
sealing my spot on the server. Now days I have to click on the CS icon
on my dekstop, click Find Server, then click favourites, and choose
the server I want, start the session and wait while Steam is
downloading this, and downloading that... it's annoying. Steam also
tries to replace the beloved command based console with graphical
GUI's. Sure its easier to use for the average joe that wants to play.
But they didn't have to GUIfy the dedicated server. In my opinion
Steam is one of the more useless things that are running in my Task
Manager. Yet it seems to be using up resource it doens't need. But
then again thats my opinion. What is it worth in a big newsletter like
this where it was meant for Windows server admins to discus certain
subjects. But I do think that Valve deserves a well DOSS attack. The
WON was one of the most innovative things in CS, and most of us only
realise it's importance now that it's near its death. Leaving some a
slow, paintful, and forceful transition to the infamous Steam network.
Dear WON, may you rest in peace...
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 19:47:27 -0400, Shane Robinett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I think you over estimate the people who like WON versus STEAM.
>
> 2/3 of the players play on the STEAM network versus the WON network
prior to
> the shut down. This is evident by comparing # of players shown @
> STEAMPOWERED.COM status page versus the max players found at
> gamespy.com/stats or w00t.net or serverspy's numbers.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ooks Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Denial of service?
>
> > Would not be surprised. If Valve were to ask the players and admins
who
> > wants Steam, and who wants WON, the overwhelming majority would
still vote
> > for WON. There are a lot of people pissed about WON being shut off.
I
> don't
> > condone DOS attacks, but Valve pretty much asked for it this time. I
think
> > that Valve and Steam are going to have a rough week.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I assume the recent problems are DOS attacks by idiots in response
to
> the
> > > shutdown of WON? Feel free to discuss.
> >
> >
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