bleh, the battlefield community in Australia (argueably) has more tards
in it then the Counter-Strike one so I've no idea why they'd be looking
forward to a BF game more then CS though if they're more interested in
WW2 games, then good for 'em.  I personally wouldn't be too happy with
the TF2 wait, but none of them have tried to create their own version so
they're all equally as lazy as the developers who claimed they were
going to create a new version =)

It would be nice if VALVe acknowledged the bug... or told us they're
near a steam release to fix it rather then stay quiet, but I'm sure they
have their reasons =)

They aren't ruining the hype yet, as this issue isn't widely known at
the moment - seems only Australian server operators are reporting being
hit with it for some reason, that's not really giving me much confidence
in our people :/

- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Napier, Kevin wrote:

Actually Ray alot of fellow tfc users I know have absolutely no interest in
cs:source; and little interest in hl2 single player.  They may very well pay
for a tfc2 if it ever materializes and is not full of bugs. Until then I
know quite a few that are waiting for bf2.


-----Original Message----- From: Ray Spaulding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><


IMHO, I think that the main point to see here is that Ragnarok Online "DID" something about the problem and Valve has done "NOTHING"! No public announcement, no acknowledgement, no fix, no attempts even. They just pocket the money and turn their monitors away from this list and the issues with their product. The main selling point of STEAM was to allow them to patch the games silently, quickly and effectively and the only thing we've seen them do so far in this issue is to sell their products and damn the bugs. They just released a game without the full line of it's contents, features that is FULL of bugs and people are running to their checkbooks to get it. They are demonstrating some of the worst business practices in the business and the common public is falling all over themselves to spend their money with this company. *Sad* IMHO, they are doing it for the hype that they gave the game and the reputation they are ruining.

Ray S.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
Andrews
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><

You guys (not specifically you) are really bagging VALVe out too much
over this.  I mean, the only reason I sent the information to this list
was so server operators could effectively ban these twits, not so we
could all sit around and poke fun at VALVe and whatever they may or may
not have anticipated.

Before you start bagging VALVe out, look around at some of the other
companies.  Ragnarok Online just had it's entire database of users
leaked, few months ago they had a huge outbreak of hacked accounts and
had to roll back their entire system several days.  Things could be a
-LOT- worse over here.

Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Napier, Kevin wrote:



"" But...can they do it again?  ""

Not likely at this point.  (I wish them luck though.)


-----Original Message----- From: Ooks Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><

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