My kind of stupidity 'eh?  Looks like VALVe 'n me have something in
common >:D

- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Whisper wrote:

Bruce appears to think I only started Valve bashing since the STEAM_ID
problem reared its ugly head.

The STEAM_ID problem is just a long line of unproffesional mistakes
made by people you would think would know better.

I mean I define intelligence as somebody who can learn from other
peoples mistakes.

It takes a rare sort of stupidity to continually make the same mistake
over and over and again despite all experience and information to the
contrary.


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:12:55 -0400, Ray Spaulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


IMHO, I think that the main point to see here is that Ragnarok Online "DID"
something about the problem and Valve has done "NOTHING"! No public
announcement, no acknowledgement, no fix, no attempts even. They just pocket
the money and turn their monitors away from this list and the issues with
their product. The main selling point of STEAM was to allow them to patch
the games silently, quickly and effectively and the only thing we've seen
them do so far in this issue is to sell their products and damn the bugs.
They just released a game without the full line of it's contents, features
that is FULL of bugs and people are running to their checkbooks to get it.
They are demonstrating some of the worst business practices in the business
and the common public is falling all over themselves to spend their money
with this company. *Sad* IMHO, they are doing it for the hype that they gave
the game and the reputation they are ruining.

Ray S.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
Andrews
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><

You guys (not specifically you) are really bagging VALVe out too much
over this.  I mean, the only reason I sent the information to this list
was so server operators could effectively ban these twits, not so we
could all sit around and poke fun at VALVe and whatever they may or may
not have anticipated.

Before you start bagging VALVe out, look around at some of the other
companies.  Ragnarok Online just had it's entire database of users
leaked, few months ago they had a huge outbreak of hacked accounts and
had to roll back their entire system several days.  Things could be a
-LOT- worse over here.

Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews

Napier, Kevin wrote:



"" But...can they do it again?  ""

Not likely at this point.  (I wish them luck though.)


-----Original Message----- From: Ooks Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] ARGH, THEY CRACKED CS:SOURCE ALREADY ><

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