Can't see through stone walls either

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:37:06 -0500, Napier, Kevin
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> Probably more an issue of deploying one solution\architecture and then having 
> the business flipflop and tack on all sorts of new requirements that don't 
> fit the original design.... or not.. Since we dont work there, and I'm sure 
> nobody there will dicuss it in detail publicly we'll never know.   Would have 
> been problematic but probably better overall to break the steam mold with hl2 
> and deploy source games on an updated version of thier auth systems so what 
> if required people to get new steam(v2)id's.   wtf do we know though, can't 
> see through the tinted glass.
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Whisper
> Sent: Thu 12/16/2004 1:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
>
> Makes you wonder who's dumb idea it was not to run a proper
> authentication scheme in the first instance and who at Valve is going
> "I told you so, the damn fools never listen to me and now look at the
> mess we are in" ???
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:02:11 -0500, Napier, Kevin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What ever the reasons the silence has always been interesting. Oddly enough 
> > the coders list seems to be fairly active with responses by Valve employees.
> >
> > I know thier reading all this which makes it all the more humorous.  You 
> > just know there all giggling and screaming for us to stfu.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
> > Andrews
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:37 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
> >
> > The silence isn't the slightest bit bizzare, it's just a repeat of the
> > past.  Remember when they missed the HL2 deadline of September, and the
> > article that explained how embarrassed and stuff Gabe was?  Seems to be
> > just repeating past mistakes, embarrassed that their system was cracked
> > but unwilling to open himself to attacks :/
> >
> > - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
> >
> > J Marcus wrote:
> >
> > >I don't buy that...There is no reason they can't comment on this one way or
> > >another. IMO that is what this forum is for. I think enough people have
> > >legitimate concerns and they should acknowledge that. I mean we have put up
> > >with a lot of shit running dedicated servers over the past few years. I
> > >think we deserve more respect then they are giving. It would be nice to 
> > >know
> > >if they even have a plan or if they don't think they can ever get a handle
> > >on it at least tell us that so we can get a good third party AC going. The
> > >silence is just bizarre to me.
> > >
> > >jefe
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. Mason
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 5:27 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
> > >
> > >Everyone calm down a minute and think about the overall scope of things.
> > >Valve is known for creating at least one, if not several of the most 
> > >awesome
> > >games we have ever played. Development has ALWAYS been plagued by missed
> > >deadlines, stolen code, and more missed deadlines.
> > >
> > >Should a new authentication scheme + anticheat measure been included with
> > >HL2 - of course! But this is Valve, and they are probably working on
> > >something so revolutionary they can't possibly release it in conjunction
> > >with the game it's made for. Even if they posted about it here, we all know
> > >any deadline hard or soft would be extended and extended.
> > >
> > >We will get something later rather than sooner, it will work for the most
> > >part, and we will be happy. It the freakin waiting that has always killed
> > >us!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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