I read an article about CD Keys being hacked last year.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PiTaGoRaS Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? False, doesn't exists such keygen able to generate WON valid cdkeys simply because there is *NOT* any algorithm to decide is a cdkey is valid or not in WON or STEAM. -- PiTaGoRaS K. Mike Bradley escribis (Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:14:18 -0500): > No ... > > There are WON cd key generators so here is how it works. > > A hacker gets banned ... > He gets a new free email ... > He gets a new free Steam account using that email account... > He uses a utility to generate a valid (illegally hacked) WON CD Key > ... > > > He is back in the game hacking and it only took 5 min ... > > > Valve knew way back when that WON was hacked ... > So they created Steam to fix it but the dumb thing was to allow WON > cd keys in with steam thereby defeating the purpose. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo de > Paula Bezerra Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:08 AM To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the > "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > > You can create as many logins as you want and we all have done that > from day one (to update our servers). > > The cdkey is only used to grant access to a single game (it is a 0 > to n relation, as an account is likely to have multiple cdkeys). > > The problem is that people can found a way the cdkey, so they > pretend to be authorized and the server doesn't barf on then. > > It is probably code needed for developers to test stuff rather than > anythigh else. > > As for the debate arround databases, I'd prefer to not comment > about it, since we have limited knowledge on what features steam > needs and most people have no experience on maintaining huge > database servers with high transactions per second counts. > > On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 01:54 +1100, Whisper wrote: >> Well the thing is, your STEAM_ID is connected to your Login. >> >> Suipposedly you cannot create (RDRR many lols) a STEAM Login >> without a valid CD Key >> >> Thats how integrity is supposed to be maintained to allow people >> to login on any computer. >> >> As most of you are well aware, this is really stupidly basic >> stuff in the world of databases. >> >> Actually Access 2003 is really limited to 2GB size not so much >> records or anything like that, if you know what I mean. >> >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/assistance/HP051868081033.aspx >> >> Microsoft Access database (.mdb) (Microsoft Access database: A >> collection of data and objects (such as tables, queries, or >> forms) that is related to a particular topic or purpose. The >> Microsoft Jet database engine manages the data.) file size 2 >> gigabytes minus the space needed for system objects (system >> object: Database objects that are defined by the system, such as >> the table MSysIndexes, or by the user. You can create a system >> object by naming the object with USys as the first four >> characters in the object name.). >> >> Table size 2 gigabyte minus the space needed for the system >> objects >> >> I think the limits for mySQL and MS SQL are more hardware >> limitations than anything else or more importantly budgetary :D > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

