I read an article about CD Keys being hacked last year.



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False, doesn't exists such keygen able to generate WON valid cdkeys simply
because there is *NOT* any algorithm to decide is a cdkey is valid or not in
WON or STEAM.

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K. Mike Bradley escribis (Thu, 16 Dec 2004 10:14:18 -0500):
> No ...
>
> There are WON cd key generators so here is how it works.
>
> A hacker gets banned ...
> He gets a new free email ...
> He gets a new free Steam account using that email account...
> He uses a utility to generate a valid (illegally hacked) WON CD Key
> ...
>
>
> He is back in the game hacking and it only took 5 min ...
>
>
> Valve knew way back when that WON was hacked ...
> So they created Steam to fix it but the dumb thing was to allow WON
> cd keys in with steam thereby defeating the purpose.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo de
> Paula Bezerra Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:08 AM To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the
> "nosteam" hacks be fixed?
>
> You can create as many logins as you want and we all have done that
> from day one (to update our servers).
>
> The cdkey is only used to grant access to a single game (it is a 0
> to n relation, as an account is likely to have multiple cdkeys).
>
> The problem is that people can found a way the cdkey, so they
> pretend to be authorized and the server doesn't barf on then.
>
> It is probably code needed for developers to test stuff rather than
> anythigh else.
>
> As for the debate arround databases, I'd prefer to not comment
> about it, since we have limited knowledge on what features steam
> needs and most people have no experience on maintaining huge
> database servers with high transactions per second counts.
>
> On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 01:54 +1100, Whisper wrote:
>> Well the thing is, your STEAM_ID is connected to your Login.
>>
>> Suipposedly you cannot create (RDRR many lols) a STEAM Login
>> without a valid CD Key
>>
>> Thats how integrity is supposed to be maintained to allow people
>> to login on any computer.
>>
>> As most of you are well aware, this is really stupidly basic
>> stuff in the world of databases.
>>
>> Actually Access 2003 is really limited to 2GB size not so much
>> records or anything like that, if you know what I mean.
>>
>> http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/assistance/HP051868081033.aspx
>>
>> Microsoft Access database (.mdb) (Microsoft Access database: A
>> collection of data and objects (such as tables, queries, or
>> forms) that is related to a particular topic or purpose. The
>> Microsoft Jet database engine manages the data.) file size 2
>> gigabytes minus the space needed for system objects (system
>> object: Database objects that are defined by the system, such as
>> the table MSysIndexes, or by the user. You can create a system
>> object by naming the object with USys as the first four
>> characters in the object name.).
>>
>> Table size 2 gigabyte minus the space needed for the system
>> objects
>>
>> I think the limits for mySQL and MS SQL are more hardware
>> limitations than anything else or more importantly budgetary :D
>
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