With non steam, you dont need a valid CD key, you
only need a steam account (login & password). After
you have created an account, you can deinstall steam and
play for free.

Greets
Ronny


No ...

There are WON cd key generators so here is how it works.

A hacker gets banned ...
He gets a new free email ...
He gets a new free Steam account using that email account...
He uses a utility to generate a valid (illegally hacked) WON CD Key ...


He is back in the game hacking and it only took 5 min ...



Valve knew way back when that WON was hacked ...
So they created Steam to fix it but the dumb thing was to allow WON cd
keys
in with steam thereby defeating the purpose.










-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcelo de Paula Bezerra Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

You can create as many logins as you want and we all have done that from
day one (to update our servers).

The cdkey is only used to grant access to a single game (it is a 0 to n
relation, as an account is likely to have multiple cdkeys).

The problem is that people can found a way the cdkey, so they pretend to
be authorized and the server doesn't barf on then.

It is probably code needed for developers to test stuff rather than
anythigh else.

As for the debate arround databases, I'd prefer to not comment about it,
since we have limited knowledge on what features steam needs and most
people have no experience on maintaining huge database servers with high
transactions per second counts.

On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 01:54 +1100, Whisper wrote:
Well the thing is, your STEAM_ID is connected to your Login.

Suipposedly you cannot create (RDRR many lols) a STEAM Login without a
valid CD Key

Thats how integrity is supposed to be maintained to allow people to
login on any computer.

As most of you are well aware, this is really stupidly basic stuff in
the world of databases.

Actually Access 2003 is really limited to 2GB size not so much records
or anything like that, if you know what I mean.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/assistance/HP051868081033.aspx

Microsoft Access database (.mdb) (Microsoft Access database: A
collection of data and objects (such as tables, queries, or forms)
that is related to a particular topic or purpose. The Microsoft Jet
database engine manages the data.) file size 2 gigabytes minus the
space needed for system objects (system object: Database objects that
are defined by the system, such as the table MSysIndexes, or by the
user. You can create a system object by naming the object with USys as
the first four characters in the object name.).

Table size 2 gigabyte minus the space needed for the system objects

I think the limits for mySQL and MS SQL are more hardware limitations
than anything else or more importantly budgetary :D




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