On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:09:43 +1100, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can somebody who is more familiar with Databases and Database security
please explain to me/us why it is difficult for Valve to secure their
STEAM_ID system?

Doesn't Valve have complete control over the STEAM User and STEAM_ID database?

Yes they do.

Doesn't Valve know which STEAM_ID's belong to which STEAM Users?

They do know.

Don't Valve know whether a STEAM Account has been created legitimately
on their STEAM User database or not?

All accounts are created legitimately.

Can't Valve verify that people in a server are using STEAM_ID's that
were created legitimately and belong to the STEAM User they purport to
be?

They are using legitimate steam id's, that belong to legitimate steam accounts.

The problem is that the game server and/or authentication server does
not check if the user owns the game he is playing. This probably needs
big changes in the way the clients obtain authentication data that is
sent to the game server. This can be a lot of work, as changes are
probably needed on clients, game servers and steam servers. Obviously
these changes need to be made at the same time, as most likely this
changes the communication protocols used, which is also a lot of work.

Developing a new authentication scheme is not an easy task, but I'm sure
they're working on it. We'll just have to wait.

Maarten

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