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He needs to forward the ports punching a hole through his nat and firewall
regardless of if the firewall is on or off, if he is using NAT.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 9:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Help Help,

This is not at all true. Linksys and Netgear are the same way. You need to
disable the firewall, but you do not need to open any ports, and you don't
need to be in the DMZ. Hlds makes an outgoing connection on port 27015 to
the master server. ALL necessary connections from HLDS are initially
initiated by hlds. Since it is an outgoing port, the router will open the
port and keep it open. The router also translates the port, so what is 27015
on the server might be 12345 on the outside of the router. The master server
registers this port, whatever it is, and publishes that as your server port
on the master list. A client looks at the master list, sees your server is
on port 12345, tries to connect and suceeds because the router opened this
port then the server made it's initial outoing request. Players will see
your server on the master list on port 12345, and join and have a lot of
fun.

Please note that whenever your computer makes an outgoing connection -
email, IM, web browser, anything at all, the router will translate the port
to some psuedo-random port. This applies to running a Half-Life server.

You do NOT need to open any ports on your router. Failure to do so simply
means that your server is on some random port instead of 27015. Ok, so your
friends list may not work either, picky picky.

PS - Netgear has a small NAT table and some models have short timeouts on
the ports. This can cause your server to stop appearing on the master list,
and can prevent players from joining. I once ran an OpenNap server behind a
Netgear router, and the user count topped out at 220. WTF? Netgear finally
admitted to me that it was their limited NAT table causing the problem.
Switched to a Linksys and tried a Westell, user count zoomed up to 1000
which was where I set the cap on the server.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Help Help,


> Just my understanding that an external PC would not be able to connect
> to the server port because no actual port is open on the router (which
> is the actual interface connected to the net). Unless you have the CS
> server setup as the DMZ host, it was my understanding that you would
> need to forward the ports to the server on the LAN (which I am again
> presuming is connecting through NAT). I'm again presuming that is a
> 'residential' router, so you wouldn't have to open any outgoing ports
> on the router because most routers which are bought for the home do
> not do this. I'm only familiar with NetGear however, I'm afraid.
>
> Also, make sure you have sv_region set correctly to your region, as
> your filters in the serverbrowser might be filtering out your server.
> Google for sv_region for the necessary region codes (3 is Europe).
>
> Regards,
>
> Ryan Lewis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OoksServer
> Sent: 29 December 2004 22:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help Help,
>
>
> You do not need to forward any ports to get it to work. If you do not
> forward any ports, it simply registers on the master list as whatever
> port NAT translated it to. Failure to forward any ports on a linksys
> router will NOT stop your server from appearing on the master list, or
> the steam browser.
>
> HOWEVER!!! Linksys has a firewall that is on by default, and this will
> stop the server from being seen.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Help Help,
>
>
>> You will need to make sure you have forwarded the correct port
> (default
>> 27015) on your router to the server. You should consult your router
>> manual or the linksys website on how to forward ports/services to
>> IP's on your network.
>>
>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=port+forwarding+intitle%3Alinksys
>> http://www.portforward.com/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ryan Lewis
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel
>> Gregait
>> Sent: 29 December 2004 17:43
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [hlds] Help Help,
>>
>>
>> I am currently trying to setup a dedicated counter-strike server
>> behind a linksys router. I have the server running but am unable to
>> see it as an internet game or connect via IP from a different PC. any
>> help would be great.
>>
>> GnEserver admin
>>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Munoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] server showing up in steam for others to join


> Nicely done Ooks... Too bad we cant setup an auto responder to that
question
> and have this come back as the reply :)
>
> Mike ParaDOX Munoz
>
> www.paradisesgarage.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OoksServer
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] server showing up in steam for others to join
>
> I went through this a few times, as have others here. Do the following:
>
> 1) Tell us which router you have. I used a Belkin router and could never
get
> it to work. Belkin tech support was worthless, and I never got it to work.
I
> got rid of the router, problem went away.
> 2) Make sure there is no firewall or other device running that prevents
> outgoing ports from being opened. Many routers have a firewall that
defaults
> to on that will cause your server to not be in the list. Turn it off, or
set
> it to allow outgoing ports to be opened and stay open.
> 3) Make sure to run hldsupdatetool, as an out of date hlds installation
will
> prevent the server from being visible.
> 4) Post your server name and IP so we can take a look at it from the
outside
> world.
> 5) Don't go opening a whole bunch of ports. The only incoming port you
need
> is 27015 (or the port you specified for your server). All other ports are
> outgoing ports and are psuedo-random by hlds and will be assigned by your
> router.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "real rebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:12 PM
> Subject: [hlds] server showing up in steam for others to join
>
>
> > I'm new to starting my own HLDS server but read just about everything
> > I can find
> >
> > can someone help me out , I am setting up an opposing force dedicated
> > server have created a user account and updated everything  , I can run
> > the server and log into it with no errors but no one can see me on the
> > server list for steam.
> >
> > thanks
> > reb
> >
> >
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