The fact that VAC2 is not even out yet, makes me discredit that entire page of crap.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [SPAM] [hlds] VAC2 - end of cheating? >From my experience SteamBans have been beneficial to the community. I'm living in the UK, where its been taken up quite well by the league communities here and it has had a positive effect. Essentially, getting banned on a SteamBans server pretty much knocks you out of contention for the Suicidegaming and UKCSL leagues, and an automatic ban from the enemydown ladder, leaving you with little options as far as organised competition goes (unless of course you consider yourself good enough to compete in CSGN, which has its own anti-cheat anyway). Steambans method of cheat detection is exactly the same as any league games (an unaminous decision by a board of admins). I have not heard of any use of rcon passwords, and steambans have released a server plugin which has the server query a master server on a player joining (don't know whether the source is available for that, but I imagine it is). Its all about who you trust, I suppose. Its like ebay, you go off reputation, and steambans from how I perceive it has a pretty good reputation here in the UK. It’s a good free service which is optional and the way I see it it really won't do any harm. There, my alternative view on Steambans ;) What did interest me though in the article was the comment about Valve gearing more towards the new customer then the existing one. It would have been interesting to see that if valve had gone for the subscription model that was proposed during development (you pay $xx a month and you get content as it comes out) whether cheating would be as common as it is now. Didn't experience any cheating myself when I used to play planetside! Regards, Ryan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Tilson Sent: 16 April 2005 23:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SPAM] [hlds] VAC2 - end of cheating? Sadly, steambans remains a noble yet totally idiotic attempt at cheat prevention as it still requires the "judgement" of a "judge panel" as to whether a player is cheating or not. The "Global Ban List" was probably more accurate even with all of it's obvious flaws. And, the "Global Ban List" did not require anyone to reveal their rcon passwords. By all means go sign up on steambans and give them your rcon passwords. Send them your credit card and identity info while you are at it to serve as a "JIT Donation" device. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
