Can we start a petition? I'm liking your ideas Frazer :)

While we are investigating features, what about W3C standard log files,
with meaningful log names?

Regards,
Adam

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] SRCDS Mini Dump Files

Srcds.exe is widely used in what I would deem "serious" game hosting
operations and yet this application really hasn't evolved much beyond
the level of a consumer product.  I expect many administrators who are
supporting srcds in such environments would agree that it presents some
operational management challenges.

What I think might be useful, perhaps in future srcds versions, would be
the inclusion of more a few management features that would make it a
more robust application in a hosting environment:

1.  Some Application Event logging - with informative events backed up
by some kind of knowledge base that would help operators determine root
causes that are within their scope of control.

2.  Some application instrumentation (E.g. PerfMon counters, WMI hooks)
that could be used to better monitor application performance and state
and employ mainstream third party management tools.

3.  A version that runs as a true Windows service, that responds
correctly and gracefully to Service Manager actions (Start, Stop,
Pause).

My $.02

F.

P.S.   And a "headshot" tag in the kill event in the DOD:S game log  :)



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] SRCDS Mini Dump Files

This is true unless you have source code and debugging symbols which may
give you a clue where it crashed. Even those won't help you much if you
are ot familiar with software internals....

On 26/04/06, Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the most part debuggers don't really provide anything helpful and
> are generally a crutch.

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