-- -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] [GS]-BeNt- wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Well I've only been playing since '99 with beta .9. I guess that is why >> your calling me newbie? > > How long you have played is a mute point to what you know.I know alot of > "newbies" that have played that long.But they still don't really know > anything about cs or aren't that good. It's called sarcasm... even though in drama classes they say "sarcasm" is not a true emotion so they don't teach it. I used sarcasm, I was wrong. My point should have been: I have experience as an admin and player since '99. I've played all the mods but now mainly DOD, CS 1.6, CS:S, DOD:S. I am not a NOOB. > >> Because I've only seen it happen a million >> times. I say it does and it is a matter of common sense. > > No its a matter of reading some links people have posted.It doesn't > happen. > No... you're incorrect. Have you played CS? Do you want me to film it with a camera and send you a tape? This is so out there that I cannot even believe that you wrote this. I think it is you that is "/reading some links/" and has some alternative motive? Are you the one in charge of fixing Net code? Modem player? Ask anyone that plays on a regular basis about this. Better yet, take the challenge of the admin who said it happens on his server and see what I'm talking about before you answer. OR read the other responses to this that say the same thing I've been saying. So No, you're incorrect. It does happen. >> You have the >> server (1 computer) that is interacting with let's say 30 clients. So >> 29 of those are running at a ping rate of under 50 and 1 at 300. Your >> telling me that when I hit the 300 ping guy with 3 hs in a row that he's >> 300 ping has registered my hits? Or that his 1 hs on me 300 ms ago >> would not affect the other 4 people that are shooting at him at the same >> time? Like in a room with 6 people all shooting at each other. The >> server has to register all hits. Since his are registering 6 times later >> than the rest of ours, the server has to "lag" to update "all" of the >> information. > > Misinformed.The server uses lag comp to smooth out player movements and > hitbox ranges.That way they aren't flying around the maps.BUT once the > ping > gets so high the server doesn't register enough information to accurately > receive that and calculate it.Hence teleporting.Now in the situation you > described which ever event the server receives first will be what > happens.So > if hes at 300ms and your at 30ms and he shoots you in the head.You > will have > about 2 seconds to kill him before you die of a registered headshot. In.That.Case!. I'll put this simpler. Lag is a figment of out imagination?. Opps, sarcasm! (SOMETIMES) A 300 pinger comes to server that is working perfect. Now, server lags like crazy, teleporting, choppy, everyone complains... 300 pinger leaves, game back to normal. Regardless of why? Data connection, hit box algorithms, or "/BUT once the ping gets so high the server doesn't register enough information to accurately receive that and calculate it.Hence teleporting/." It can show up as LLLLLLaaaaagggggg on the client side. It has gotten better with the updates and as the versions go up but, it's still there. > >> I tell you what REAL NOOB, you show me how it's possible >> NOT to lag with the situation that I just explained? > > How can anyone explain it to you when you are too lazy to read links that > are posted.And do your own research.Its misinformed people that are > talking > about subjects calling people noobs ect.The very same people that > still take > about interp even though its locked.Grr thats another topic. > A lot of links are written by people like yourself. They can have a 100 people saying it's true but, they are the technical type A personality's that have a hard time believing anything unless they initiated it. "/And do your own research/" I'll say it again. It only has happen like a million times to me and others (_willing to see it_) over the last 7 years. When I was admin on CS 1.6 we did test this. We did "research" over and over until we were satisfied. By the way, interp is locked and it has no effect on this. >> Oh! and the 56 >> k'ers can go to a server where there are other 56 K'ers just like I did >> when I was on modem. Why am I and the other 28 guys who have broadband >> penalized because 1 Austrian guy wants to play with us instead of his >> own kind? > > They can come to my server then.Obviously you don't pay attention to what > they did in all the cs updates over the years.You do realise from .9 beta > that you claim to have played to 1.6 there where ALOT of netcode changes. Agreed, I have not paid attention to all the cs updates. My fault. Can you pay attention to this? Can you recall all the updates in the last years that caused problems in other areas. Why was there so much work on the Net code? A solution that works for sure is: Players play together on servers with others on same kind of connections. Problem solved. Modem players happy playing with 200-300 ping range, broadband players all playing below 80 ping range... everyone happy. What would it take for you to see what I am saying? A mpg of it? VHS tape? DVD? A signed affidavit with 1000 signatures that can be upheld in court? BTW, I can send you the original versions that I have downloaded during the last 7 years if you would like to see them? They won't work but they are still on my server. > >> >> I am eagerly anticipating your reply so we can see who the real NOOB is. >> > Well I'm not saying you're a "NOOB" for the simple fact that I'm older > than > 14,and know how to carry on a discussion on a mail list without calling > people names.So children please grow up instead of flooding my inbox with > emails like these. > > BeNt Well, ok so your 15. It's ok! I understand... Trying to impress the girls! I have not called you a name and I apologize to the other fellow. I did think he was calling me a newbie. So, to understand "/how to carry on a discussion on a mail list/" _From your example:_ Make your point one paragraph at a time. So, you can pick your flames and show how you're the superior race with degrading comments. Always Flame the person at the end in a way that is subtle but effective. Always claim that the other guy is just lying about real experience he may have had and covering it by "/Just reading the message boards/" and "/Not researching/". Put blame on "/children/" (coping mechanism for some kind of guilt maybe?) and make it seem "I'm so important.. .so popular" (filled mailbox, not enough time!) that I must be right in what I'm saying. Type A personalities! Got to love 'em or they drive normal people crazy.
Obviously, this will go nowhere. You don't have to reply since I will not anymore and you're so busy and a reply is beneath you or whatever? Oh!... It still Lags regardless of what you've said. DT > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006 -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
