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Hahaha, I think it's real funny that people are debating what 'cheating' is,
and someone even said that 'anything that gives an advantage to one player
over another is a cheat.' That's funny. It's like saying someone is cheating
because they have a 7900GT and you only have a GeForce 2, and him getting
more frames than you is an unfair advantage, thus he's cheating. Good stuff.

I didn't read ALL of the replies of this topic, but it sounds like the
script is pretty useless. Nobody has ever heard of hud_fastswitch 1? You
press 1,2,3,4 for all of your different items(weapons), and you have more
control over it than some script.

Weaksauce.

On 5/15/06, Bud Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, but in my opinion, many of you are being quite ignorant.
>
> I am missing three of my fingers on my left hand.  Convince me that I
> SHOULDN'T use scripts to help me out.  You're all assuming that everyone
> is
> "normal" with 10 fully-functioning digits and two fully-functioning
> eyeballs.  Well to heck with it! If someone wants to ride around in a
> wheel
> chair but are perfectly capable of walking, I don't care, do you?  What
> does
> it really matter?  A script isn't going to help that much anyway --
> whoever
> said "a script doesn't miss keys" well you bind it to something,
> right?  You
> could just as easily miss that key as any other (trust me on this one).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bud Ingram
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian M Frain (eternal)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > It's simple, a cheat is anything that gives one player an advantage over
> > another. I am sure we can all agree that is fact.
> >
> > Now we can assume that like everything in life the hl2 code isn't
> perfect
> > and there are ways to use the tools we have been given in ways that are
> > not
> > intended (the wallhack using cvars comes to mind). I am sure that the
> > creators of the game did not intend for people to be able to make no
> > recoil
> > cheats. Considering the stance they have taken on cheating I am sure we
> > all
> > agree that is a fair statement. Scripts are also nothing more than a
> > manipulation of variables automated for our gaming pleasure. It is these
> > variables that are the actual cheats but it is the scripts that are the
> > catalyst. It's like one is the bullet and one is the gun. They work
> > together
> > to get the result.
> > The argument that it is there for everyone has no basis in reality. We
> all
> > may have the possibility to create a cheat such as this but the average
> > player does not have the knowledge necessary to create the cheat. We all
> > have the option of being rocket scientists but not everyone follows that
> > path. It's like talking to a little kid and all he says is "well what
> if"
> > over and over to every response.
> >
> >
> > On 5/15/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> It must be wonderful living in a world of black and white absolutes
> >>
> >> At least it is obvious why some of you are in IT
> >>
> >> Every choice is ultimately either 1 or 0
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/16/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> > That statement is just ridiculous, that is like saying guns don't
> kill
> >> > people, people kill people. I couldn't get in a server and use a no
> >> recoil
> >> > script WITHOUT THE SCRIPT!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 5/15/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Lets not confuse a "cheat" which may use a script to work it's
> evil,
> >> > with
> >> > > the script itself.  A script combines functions bound to keys... it
> >> > cannot
> >> > > execute any command the server admin hasn't allowed.  If someone is
> >> > using
> >> > > scripts to execute cheats, then he is a cheater but the script
> isn't
> >> > > a
> >> > > cheat... the script only put the keystrokes together.
> >> > >
> >> > > Peace...
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:34 AM
> >> > > To: [email protected]
> >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Your kidding right?  I know of a forum dedicated to scripting
> cheats.
> >> > > So a no-recoil script isnt hacking?  Whats your server address so I
> >> can
> >> > > come use some scripts on it.  By your definition I am not
> >> cheating...Im
> >> > > just using scripts.
> >> > >
> >> > > Chris McCoy wrote:
> >> > > > Well, that's great and all... but, "they don't miss opponents?"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Sorry, scripts can't aim at opponents.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You guys make it sound like scripts are the ultimate cheater
> tools.
> >> > > Scripts
> >> > > > are nothing more than an extention to a players ability. Scripts
> >> help
> >> > > them
> >> > > > do small things a little bit faster.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Tell me one "cheat" use that a script has, and I'll tell you
> you're
> >> > full
> >> > > of
> >> > > > it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Message: 4
> >> > > >> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:51:54 +0200
> >> > > >> From: "]FUSION[ Gray Death" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > >> To:  [email protected]
> >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do?
> >> > > >> Reply-To: [email protected]
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> So where is the advantage to the script?  None really, beyond
> >> > personal
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > > preference.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> So you say aimbots are fine? Because they just aim and everyone
> >> > > >> can
> >> > do
> >> > > >> this with a mouse? I don't think that. Scripts are better then
> >> > humans,
> >> > > >> they are faster, they don't miss opponents and they don't miss
> >> keys.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> With kind regards,
> >> > > >> ]FUSION[ Gray Death
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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