-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The conversation was fine until the last few replies. There is no drama here so we can move on and talk about something else.
On 5/16/06, Matt Albiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. > > just let it go. all of it. everyone. please. > > you don't go playing on his server, and you don't go playing on his > server. > shake hands and move along. > > On 5/15/06, Gerald Hefty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > "It's simple, a cheat is anything that gives one player an advantage > over > > another. I am sure we can all agree that is fact." > > > > Yeah, completely out of context, right? But all you can do is resort to > is > > personal attacks, because you lack any kind of real arguement. Way to > go. > > > > On 5/15/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Ok so now we get the less cordial people coming in and voicing their > > > opinions. > > > Nice job people, it isn't like the conversation was hurting you. > > > I am the one who said that a cheat is something that gives one player > an > > > advantage over another and you successfully took my statement > completely > > > out > > > of context. Kudos to you and your exemplary social skills, especially > > > where > > > you say "I didnt read ALL the replies" are you related to the George > > Bush > > > perhaps? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/15/06, Gerald Hefty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Hahaha, I think it's real funny that people are debating what > > 'cheating' > > > > is, > > > > and someone even said that 'anything that gives an advantage to one > > > player > > > > over another is a cheat.' That's funny. It's like saying someone is > > > > cheating > > > > because they have a 7900GT and you only have a GeForce 2, and him > > > getting > > > > more frames than you is an unfair advantage, thus he's cheating. > Good > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > I didn't read ALL of the replies of this topic, but it sounds like > the > > > > script is pretty useless. Nobody has ever heard of hud_fastswitch 1? > > You > > > > press 1,2,3,4 for all of your different items(weapons), and you have > > > more > > > > control over it than some script. > > > > > > > > Weaksauce. > > > > > > > > On 5/15/06, Bud Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, but in my opinion, many of you are being quite ignorant. > > > > > > > > > > I am missing three of my fingers on my left hand. Convince me > that > > I > > > > > SHOULDN'T use scripts to help me out. You're all assuming that > > > everyone > > > > > is > > > > > "normal" with 10 fully-functioning digits and two > fully-functioning > > > > > eyeballs. Well to heck with it! If someone wants to ride around > in > > a > > > > > wheel > > > > > chair but are perfectly capable of walking, I don't care, do > > > you? What > > > > > does > > > > > it really matter? A script isn't going to help that much anyway > -- > > > > > whoever > > > > > said "a script doesn't miss keys" well you bind it to something, > > > > > right? You > > > > > could just as easily miss that key as any other (trust me on this > > > one). > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Bud Ingram > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Brian M Frain (eternal)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:03 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > It's simple, a cheat is anything that gives one player an > > advantage > > > > over > > > > > > another. I am sure we can all agree that is fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we can assume that like everything in life the hl2 code > isn't > > > > > perfect > > > > > > and there are ways to use the tools we have been given in ways > > that > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > intended (the wallhack using cvars comes to mind). I am sure > that > > > the > > > > > > creators of the game did not intend for people to be able to > make > > no > > > > > > recoil > > > > > > cheats. Considering the stance they have taken on cheating I am > > sure > > > > we > > > > > > all > > > > > > agree that is a fair statement. Scripts are also nothing more > than > > a > > > > > > manipulation of variables automated for our gaming pleasure. It > is > > > > these > > > > > > variables that are the actual cheats but it is the scripts that > > are > > > > the > > > > > > catalyst. It's like one is the bullet and one is the gun. They > > work > > > > > > together > > > > > > to get the result. > > > > > > The argument that it is there for everyone has no basis in > > reality. > > > We > > > > > all > > > > > > may have the possibility to create a cheat such as this but the > > > > average > > > > > > player does not have the knowledge necessary to create the > cheat. > > We > > > > all > > > > > > have the option of being rocket scientists but not everyone > > follows > > > > that > > > > > > path. It's like talking to a little kid and all he says is "well > > > what > > > > > if" > > > > > > over and over to every response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/15/06, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > >> It must be wonderful living in a world of black and white > > absolutes > > > > > >> > > > > > >> At least it is obvious why some of you are in IT > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Every choice is ultimately either 1 or 0 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> :) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 5/16/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > >> > That statement is just ridiculous, that is like saying guns > > don't > > > > > kill > > > > > >> > people, people kill people. I couldn't get in a server and > use > > a > > > no > > > > > >> recoil > > > > > >> > script WITHOUT THE SCRIPT!!! > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On 5/15/06, Edward Luna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Lets not confuse a "cheat" which may use a script to work > > it's > > > > > evil, > > > > > >> > with > > > > > >> > > the script itself. A script combines functions bound to > > > keys... > > > > it > > > > > >> > cannot > > > > > >> > > execute any command the server admin hasn't allowed. If > > > someone > > > > is > > > > > >> > using > > > > > >> > > scripts to execute cheats, then he is a cheater but the > > script > > > > > isn't > > > > > >> > > a > > > > > >> > > cheat... the script only put the keystrokes together. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Peace... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> > > From: Hell Phoenix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 10:34 AM > > > > > >> > > To: [email protected] > > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Your kidding right? I know of a forum dedicated to > scripting > > > > > cheats. > > > > > >> > > So a no-recoil script isnt hacking? Whats your server > > address > > > so > > > > I > > > > > >> can > > > > > >> > > come use some scripts on it. By your definition I am not > > > > > >> cheating...Im > > > > > >> > > just using scripts. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Chris McCoy wrote: > > > > > >> > > > Well, that's great and all... but, "they don't miss > > > opponents?" > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Sorry, scripts can't aim at opponents. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > You guys make it sound like scripts are the ultimate > > cheater > > > > > tools. > > > > > >> > > Scripts > > > > > >> > > > are nothing more than an extention to a players ability. > > > > Scripts > > > > > >> help > > > > > >> > > them > > > > > >> > > > do small things a little bit faster. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Tell me one "cheat" use that a script has, and I'll tell > > you > > > > > you're > > > > > >> > full > > > > > >> > > of > > > > > >> > > > it. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Message: 4 > > > > > >> > > >> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:51:54 +0200 > > > > > >> > > >> From: "]FUSION[ Gray Death" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> > > >> To: [email protected] > > > > > >> > > >> Subject: [hlds] Fast Weapon Scripts what to do? > > > > > >> > > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >>> So where is the advantage to the script? None really, > > > beyond > > > > > >> > personal > > > > > >> > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > preference. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> So you say aimbots are fine? Because they just aim and > > > > everyone > > > > > >> > > >> can > > > > > >> > do > > > > > >> > > >> this with a mouse? I don't think that. Scripts are > better > > > then > > > > > >> > humans, > > > > > >> > > >> they are faster, they don't miss opponents and they > don't > > > miss > > > > > >> keys. > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> With kind regards, > > > > > >> > > >> ]FUSION[ Gray Death > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > > >> archives, > > > > > >> > > please visit: > > > > > >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > >> > > archives, > > > > > >> > > please visit: > > > > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > >> > > archives, > > > > > >> > > please visit: > > > > > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > >> > please visit: > > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > >> please visit: > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > -- > Matt Albiniak > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
