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Don't worry guys

Vista is out now

>From my understanding, it is the perfect marketing ploy to drive millions of
users towards Linux!

Chin up

Cheers
Whisper

On 2/1/07, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Ook, alot of the programs you listed, there are Linux versions of them,
> > (well maybe not HLSW).
>
> HLSW works nicely in Wine. aMule is immature and buggy. SoulSeek has no
> linux version. WinMX has no linux version that I like. Alternatives are
> unfortunately immature. The native linux servers work fairly well, so
> there
> is some give and take. Linux, as a desktop, is getting there. And there
> are
> a lot of people like me that are tired of beta testing overpriced,
> bloated,
> Microsoft software. *That* is the future. Not Wine, but native
> productivity
> apps for linux.
>
> >
> > And, ATi drivers do exist on the ATi site, apparently fairly well
> > supported
> > & easy to install.
> >
> > On 31/01/07, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's tongue in cheek. Wine does exactly what an emulator, by
> definition,
> >> does in that it allows program not written for Linux to run under
> Linux.
> >> I
> >> used to run my OP4 server under wine on Slackware 10.0 on a PIII/800.
> Ran
> >> great, preformance was no better or worse then running under Windows. I
> >> couldn't get serverdoc to run, and couldn't get a restart script to
> work,
> >> so
> >> I eventually moved it back to my windows box. Then I moved my ftp
> >> servers,
> >> winMX, SoulSeek, eMule, and hlsw to my Linux box, all running under
> Wine.
> >> They worked good until current releases broke them.  The real drawback
> >> with
> >> wine is that while they have made great strides with it, there are
> still
> >> many compability issues. After all these years, Wine is still beta
> >> quality
> >> at best. New releases frequently break things that used to work. I
> >> personally think there is no future in Wine because they just can't get
> a
> >> handle on the compability issues.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > WINE == Wine is not an emulator... (see
> >> > http://www.winehq.com/site/myths
> >> ).
> >> >
> >> > It provides a thunking layer for win32 apps to directly run on linux
> >> > systems :)
> >> >
> >> > - Alfred
> >> >
> >> > Cc2iscooL wrote:
> >> >> --
> >> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> >> Client via wine maybe...less performance as you're emulating the
> >> >> Windows environment. Server performance on Linux is terrible...lots
> >> >> of fluctuation
> >> >> of server FPS with even low CPU usage. Stable until a player joins,
> >> >> then
> >> >> it's all over the board.
> >> >>
> >> >> Though, you can get a higher max FPS on Linux.
> >> >>
> >> >> On 1/30/07, Brian M. Frain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I found that decision pretty strange also since they are saying
> that
> >> >>> Vista is going to bring back and revolutionize pc gaming. As if we
> >> >>> ever left?
> >> >>> I am not one of those MS haters and I do like my xp but I am just
> in
> >> >>> awe at some of the decisions they made this time around.
> >> >>> I have been seriously looking at a linux alternative. I am
> wondering
> >> >>> how well Valve product server and clients run on linux and this is
> >> >>> definitely the place to ask.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ðåñ Offord
> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:13 PM
> >> >>> To: [email protected]
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Vista sound issues
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> >>> Funny, that article was linked in the very first post...
> >> >>> Creative are working on another version of DirectSound, but very
> few
> >> >>> games support it. Also, Valve would be advised to fix this, do they
> >> >>> really want there loyal gamers, who upgrade cause games don't
> >> >>> support DirectX 9, having awful sound, when they have a fairly new
> >> >>> Sound Card
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 30/01/07, Brian M. Frain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I believe I read that it is the way Vista handles sound (changed
> >> >>>> from past windows methods). You are no longer able to use hardware
> >> >>>> acceleration or some such. I am sure if you google it you will
> find
> >> >>>> an article about it. My point is it doesn't seem as if it is
> >> >>>> something Valve can or even should try to fix. Go yell at Bill
> >> >>>> Gates or Creative and tell them how stupid that decision seems (I
> >> >>>> say seems cause maybe they know something we don't).
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clutch9
> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:03 AM
> >> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >> >>>> Subject: [hlds] Counter-Strike 1.6 Vista sound issues
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I've had many problems concerning CS1.6 on Vista. EAX not working
> >> >>>> and others.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://pc.ign.com/articles/759/759538p1.html might be an
> >> >>>> interesting read.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Maybe it's time Valve reprogrammed CS1.6 to comply with Vista? I'm
> >> >>>> sure they've not yet completely given up this project, as it still
> >> >>>> bring in money. However I am not sure they know why they cannot
> >> >>>> increase the price a little, as cheaters seem to have no troubles
> >> >>>> buying new accounts.
> >> >>>>
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