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> Message du 07/03/07 18:49 > De : "Roman Hatsiev" > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > Yes, I would agree with brand concept here. Players are joining and > staying at our communities not because they don't have other servers > to play at but because of effort and money we put into our projects. I > don't think that messing up with every dedicated server on the network > does make any sense but whose which are really busy and thus deliver a > lot of ads to players should have some compensation. > > I'm not going to hurt my community by dropping any of my servers as > long as I have players on them and I suppose most of us won't do that > and that is why I don't think we ever get any compensation... > > As for more realistic approach I would rather prefer to pay 2-3 USD > per month to disable ads for myself. > > This is all very sad though. > > On 07/03/07, Rob Poe wrote: > > I won't jeopardize my Steam account (which I paid well over $90 for) to > > run a "third party fix". > > > > However, here's my feeling on this matter. > > > > Whether or not it would or would not affect MY bandwidth as a server > > owner (I've run servers for years .. CS in 2000-2002, DOD 2002-2005, > > etc) it's still MY brand and MY server. Not MY game, but a brand. Yes, > > servers / communities are BRANDS. To taint MY BRAND by putting someone > > else's advertising in is totally objectionable. > > > > Valve needs to offer two options to the GSP's and server owners. > > > > 1. Compensation. I'd say that 10% per ad impression. > > or > > 2. The ability to disable the ads. > > > > We play games to GET AWAY from the real world. A way to "just veg out" > > and take away life stress. > > > > Having to mentally deal with a "Real World" encroaching on the "Virtual > > gaming arena" where I go to GET away from real life - makes it too much > > like real life. > > > > If there's going to be no choice in this matter, then I declare my Steam > > account to be defective, and I want a refund for all of my costs -- for > > Steam content and for the CD Keys I have entered.. > > > > > > KeepKnarzling wrote: > > > There's already a Client'fix' out there - but i wont post the URL here. > > > > > > Valve should pay the Serveradmin's for delivering the Ad's. > > > > > > > > > RMaioroff schrieb: > > > > > >> Wow. Sorry, I am a little bit behind the curve here since I don't host > > >> CS or > > >> CS:S. You mean to tell me that this in game advertising is forced and not > > >> optional? I was obviously wrong when I read the original announcement > > >> about > > >> it earlier. I thought it gave the server admin an opportunity to run > > >> in-game > > >> ads of their choice & design. But apparently this is a forced change and > > >> the > > >> content stream is not defined by the admin, but by Valve? OK: Are you > > >> fucking serious? I am sorry this is happening to the CS/CS:S community, > > >> and > > >> sure hope it doesn't find it's way into the other mods. We spend $1200 > > >> monthly on servers for pubs. An out of pocket expense without any revenue > > >> stream to support it. If I was then forced to run ads for someone and > > >> allow > > >> them to capitalize on my services which I offer for free, I'd drop the > > >> game > > >> vendor in a heartbeat. > > >> > > >> It was bad enough the other day when I went into one of my TFC pubs and > > >> saw > > >> some advertisement in the "Content Provided By:" box that listed some > > >> other > > >> game server host. Business is business, and Valve's product are no > > >> exception. They develop in order to make a profit. Valve has extreme > > >> talent > > >> and also the financial capability to dictate a lot of the industry > > >> trends, > > >> so why jump on this bandwagon? This is, in my opinion, as bad as spam. > > >> > > >> How Sad. Please someone tell me that I have it all wrong, and Valve isn't > > >> selling out and throwing their admins under the bus. > > >> > > >> Can anyone confirm or deny that this ad based model will or will not be > > >> in > > >> TF2? We plan to make a huge roll out of dozens of TF2 pubs when Valve > > >> pushes > > >> the final release of it, but if TF2 will have ads, I will go buy a > > >> fishing > > >> boat or gamble $20k on craps in Vegas instead of doing a TF2 server farm. > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [GS]Admin > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:10 AM > > >> To: [email protected] > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Ingame adds, who will remove them? > > >> > > >> Yup I guess it's time for me and my community to move along to a > > >> different > > >> non-ad'ed game.This is the reason we didn't play or buy into BF2142. > > >> Good-bye VALVe.... > > >> > > >> BeNt > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> If it can not connect to the ad server, it automatically provides you > > >>> with > > >>> the viewing pleasure of VALVe game ads. > > >>> ---- "Saint K." wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> I'll give a cookie to the first one to write a tweak to block the ads. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > vous aller me lacher la grappe bande de poto et surtout allez vous faire > foute bande de voleur -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
