I'm not arguing the beta's. They are a godsend. I too appreciate these. But it's not a single thing that valve has done that has us jumping "down Valve's throat". They have a consistent history of fixing things that don't need fixing, while not fixing major bugs.
I was all in favor of the cl_restrict... cvar. It does protect us from the kiddies. I hope Alfred will respond at some point on what exactly is the thought on this. Other than "The restrict cvar has been removed, zBlock needs to be updated." -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta (cl_restrict_server_commands) I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people here seem to have made assumptions with the information that was provided. The cl_restrict.... may have been removed, but Alfred has yet to reply to this list stating if it's been replaced, revised or otherwise. Everyone seems to be eager to jump down Valve's throat without acknowledging the fact that they are making an effort to work with us. Where's the big shout out to Valve from you guys that were spamming this list after every update you didn't get a beta for. We all know that updates will likely break things and it sucks to have to always find a new way to skin the same cat, but that's the way software works and most of you know that. Alfred, thanks from those of us who appreciate the steps you're making at trying to work with the community rather than against it. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Plugin makers work hard to make plugins that help server operators as well > as bring some new fun into the game for players without having to > redistribute a mod. Valve is falling over itself to keep us from doing this. > It's the community support and creativity that keep a game alive, and they > have never gotten this. > > I'll tell you this, when HL2DM dies for me, steam will disappear from my > computer for good. I will never buy another thing from them again. Unless > they change their outlook towards the existing community and put some effort > into supporting us. > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
