I completely agree.

Counter Strike is the most popular mod out there.  The BIGGEST problem
has always been hackers that ruin the fun for the community.  They have
consistently tried to fix things with VAC, and now the beta helps
address another exploit that ruins the fun for other gamers.  THEY ARE
TRYING!

And instead of being stupid little kids jumping the gun...maybe you
could help with this beta and provide constructive ideas to help instead
of threatening and crying about it.

Many people hated market pricing system...Valve gave server admins the
ability to modify it.  I'm sure if you presented your case in a mature
manner...they will offer an alternative to other plugin issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NaughtyGeek
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Dedicated server beta
(cl_restrict_server_commands)

I'm really going to have to disagree with you on this one. We all jumped
up and down and said we needed betas before releases and here we are
with a beta to test. Change is a necessary evil and most of the people
here seem to have made assumptions with the information that was
provided. The cl_restrict.... may have been removed, but Alfred has yet
to reply to this list stating if it's been replaced, revised or
otherwise. Everyone seems to be eager to jump down Valve's throat
without acknowledging the fact that they are making an effort to work
with us. Where's the big shout out to Valve from you guys that were
spamming this list after every update you didn't get a beta for. We all
know that updates will likely break things and it sucks to have to
always find a new way to skin the same cat, but that's the way software
works and most of you know that.

Alfred, thanks from those of us who appreciate the steps you're making
at trying to work with the community rather than against it.




 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Keeper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Plugin makers work hard to make plugins that help server operators as
well
> as bring some new fun into the game for players without having to
> redistribute a mod. Valve is falling over itself to keep us from doing
this.
> It's the community support and creativity that keep a game alive, and
they
> have never gotten this.
>
> I'll tell you this, when HL2DM dies for me, steam will disappear from
my
> computer for good. I will never buy another thing from them again.
Unless
> they change their outlook towards the existing community and put some
effort
> into supporting us.
>

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