all i can say is: - remove the custom tab - create one list with one good filter for all servers - give vanilla-server-admins the possibility to use sv_tags to advert/describe their servers, too
please valve, listen to your community - andreas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:38 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab Yeah, I wanted to do the same. The entire idea is flawed, there is no way for valve to be aware of plug-ins or modifications installed on a server, any system they do try and come up with will be ruthlessly countered before they can say custom tab, and I seriously doubt they are going to hire moderators to go delist custom servers in the wrong place, when the solution is so much easier. I ran an experiment, I took 2 fake servers, put one on the custom tab, and one of them on the internet tab. The server on the custom tab received roughly 90% fewer queries. (Queries being players loading up the list and the server sending data to the client). - voogru. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Scrap the custome server tab The one other thing I think everybody can agree on is the idea that people do not use sv_tags properly because of the custom tab. For example, if the tag search was available for all servers, I would set my sv_tags to a2gaming, the name of my gaming community. Even if the servers were 100% pure without ANY form of mod or adminmod on it, I would go to the custom tab. Why? There are no mods. I would use this feature to help people find my servers quickly and easily, since filter search by name is not possible (other than A->Z Z->A). But I would never do it now, since it would put my on custom. [My servers are actually 32 players, but that's the only mod. But what I said does apply to other people.] On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Timothy L Havener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone else see what this is all a precursor to? Ranked and > unranked servers. Valve is trying to push us all into that direction > using things like the custom tab to soften us up to the idea. This > whole "run a server like we want you to or else" attitude is something I > never expected from Valve. They are killing the great community they > have built with this crap. The tighter your grip around the content of > servers grows the more players slip through your fingers.(little star > wars reference) ;-) > > Carl . wrote: >> The thing that makes me mad is Valve always decide to implement these silly things long after >> the game is released. >> >> I bought 6 TF2 servers for a year and they were always full and had players then Valve >> decide to release the silly custom tab and now i have no players. >> >> All i have done to my server is took the gravity from 800 to 600 and because of that i get punished and >> moved to the custom tab. >> I bought these Servers under the impression they would always be full and now i am tied to >> a 12 month contract and i cant get rid of the servers. >> >> Thanks for wasting my money Valve i would like some compensation, on the other hand just scrap the >> custom server tab, put us back in the internet tab, and apply filters as many have suggested. >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> All new Live Search at Live.com >> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000006ukm/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1464 - Release Date: 5/24/2008 8:56 AM >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
