The last thing Valve wants to do is get in a war with the mod writers over this. Every TF2 update will include a patch to the delisting code, and every mod update will include a patch for that.
I'm a server admin. I don't know what the tags are. I don't know how to use them. I don't care. I run a game server for people to have fun. My server run's Beetles Mod for administration and reserved slots. I have custom maps, but not in my regular rotation. If the server is switched to one, you'll be able to download it lickity split from my redirect. I see no need for tags in my case. If you're running a 24/7 or party mode or omg supar low gravity or whatever server that can mess with people's stats, achievements, etc., just list it in the damned server name. As for tags/stats/etc.... I'd be more than happy to see Valve do away with the custom tags entirely and just give us more robust filter options, and the option to reset our stats. Ideally, you'd be able to reset individual stats and achievements, and track stats over all time, month, week, etc. Sure, that kind of stat tracking is more suited to a mod/plugin, but those would only catch data from one server/group of servers, and you wouldn't see them when loading. The way Valve handled stats seems to have been shortsighted. When someone first gets into TF2, they see their stats at each map load and can see their progress, and it's interesting. It encourages you to try out other classes and do better. After a few weeks/months, you're basically staring at the same bars. Stats don't age well. A lot of people complain about custom servers avoiding the tags because they can ruin their stats. A lot of people want to reset their stats because of this. I'm willing to be there are also a lot of people who would like to reset their stats just because they'd like to get a picture of how they're doing now that they're experienced with the game. Stats would a lot more fun for me if I could reset them (keeping my unlocks/achievements!) and play for a week or two from a blank slate. If we can't reset our stats, let us reset our stat displays. Think of it as an odometer versus a trip odometer. > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:02 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] valve, some feedback? > > Most likely there will be a patch and make some of this more worthless > then it already is, but since its been kinda quite the last few days i > thought what the heck. No its not beating a long lost dead horse...well > maybe a small poke. > > > A while ago valve made mention about delisting servers that are > bypassing the custom tags. Now i am not wanting to start a huge thing > again on if there should be tags or what not, but i am more wondering on > why valve gave out a kind of idle threat then does nothing with it. You > look on the lists and there are a bunch of servers that are bypassing > it. Is there going to be any actual enforcement here or something else > you guys are just giving up on it? > > I would like to hear some feedback from valve about some bug fixes that > i had brought up in the list before. most that have been there since > long long ago that also seem to have been ignored. > > Can we get some information on these things? > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
