That's the problem with "vanilla".  I'd call my server vanilla, but we
do run custom maps, so others wouldn't.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and why isnt it vanilla?  because it goes to 25/24 when someone with a
> reserved slot joins? or that it has hlstatsx?  vanilla to me means that
> the gameplay is the same as valve intended with respawn times, team size
> etc.  so why are you calling me an ass?
>
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>> I just got off a server (CircleX-Gaming #2 - 209.160.43.166:27015) and
>> they are listing all the tags including vanilla, but it truly is not.
>>
>> Gheez... What asses.
>>
>> Arg! wrote:
>>
>>> but this is going to be the same problem we have before, if the telcos dont
>>> put the vanilla tags in for their servers, then the list will be corrupted
>>> and useless for searching.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Leonard L. Church
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Really? Are the custom server admins going to argue this point?? Seriously?
>>>>
>>>> Put the Vanilla tag on please. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Arg! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> you can have no filters and sort by tags!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with using no tags is there isn't a way (that I've found so
>>>>>> far)
>>>>>> to have it only display servers with no tags.  You either get all the
>>>>>> servers listed or servers with tags you've added to your filter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Arg! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vanilla == no tags, surely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or only the gamemode tags.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, what we need next is to get this in the Steam server browser, not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the in game one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be against the idea of servers coming pre-set with a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Vanilla'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tag by default, but only if there aren't any more shenanigans with
>>>>>>>> falsifying the tag info.  For example, John Doe decides to get a
>>>>>>>>
>>>> server
>>>>
>>>>>>>> going, so he downloads it, adds some custom gameplay elements, then
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> plug-in to keep the server with the only tag of 'Vanilla', while
>>>>>>>> short/insta-spawn and low gravity, among other things, remain in play
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For everyone who is going to play by the rules, what do you feel
>>>>>>>>
>>>> should
>>>>
>>>>>>>> become of those that skirt the system now?  Would delisting be a fair
>>>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those that will NOT be properly using tags as intended, why not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> first e-mail in this thread, I posted a link to a thread in the Steam
>>>>>>>> forums
>>>>>>>> in which a server op said that he's not going to use tags purely to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> more traffic to his server.  How do you all feel about this now?  As a
>>>>>>>> player, it's frustrating because it's basically a glimpse into the
>>>>>>>> near-future and that glimpse tells me it's not going to get any better
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure he won't be the only one who will do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess there's going to be some falsifying of the tag info no matter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> happens, but it'd be nice to keep it to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, for everyone that's responded here, thanks for making me feel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about going into the server browser now.  It looks like it's not going
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> that difficult to find the games I am looking for, save for the few
>>>>>>>> holdouts
>>>>>>>> who don't care about tricking people into connecting to their servers.
>>>>>>>> Thank you all again for your time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, SakeFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i was kinda surprised that when you turn cheats on it doesn't auto
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO Valve should quickly add a "auto-tagging" feature like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is already an auto tagging system. It's working like before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> change some parameters, like maxplayers, crits, respawn times, it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> autmatically added to sv_tags.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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