The tag system is awesome. All the servers that I manage use it. People can now actually search for my servers.
You are broken. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Leonard L. Church <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > LOL > > Log in man. I was playing Steel when that happened. Look at your player > log and you will see that I was on. > > You have instant respawn on. I'm not making crap up. Tell me, what tags > do you have on? > > Either case, you are still advertising your server as vanilla with > instant respawn on. Anyone can check (unless you reset it and removed > that setting). > > I simply don't care anymore. Valve, the tag system as it is now is still > broke. The only way it's going to work is to take the tags out of the > hands of the server admins and make it automated. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > we've never had instant respawn or no-crits enabled, we've run default > > servers since the beginning. you can check hlsw and see what plugins we > > are running and what respawn and crit settings we have. you just choose > > to make up a story about my server and didn't realize I belonged to this > > list. we also don't play custom maps either which I would take as being > > vanilla. so stop making crap up so you have something to cry about and > > protest. > > > > Leonard L. Church wrote: > >> Vanilla to me is standard rules of play. Maps don't matter IMHO. > >> > >> Instant respawn is NOT part of the rules of play IMHO as well. > >> > >> That's the issue. Perhaps I'm coming down to hard on a server owner who > >> advertises Vanilla with Instant Respawn on by calling him an ass, but I > >> can also see several owners complaining about traffic and doing the > >> exact same thing screaming about how those servers without vanilla tags > >> are "Doomed to fail". > >> > >> *sighs* I am sorry I called Dan an ass. Perhaps though you can remove > >> the tags you don't actually use from the server? > >> > >> Dustin Wyatt wrote: > >> > >>> That's the problem with "vanilla". I'd call my server vanilla, but we > >>> do run custom maps, so others wouldn't. > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> and why isnt it vanilla? because it goes to 25/24 when someone with a > >>>> reserved slot joins? or that it has hlstatsx? vanilla to me means > that > >>>> the gameplay is the same as valve intended with respawn times, team > size > >>>> etc. so why are you calling me an ass? > >>>> > >>>> Leonard L. Church wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I just got off a server (CircleX-Gaming #2 - 209.160.43.166:27015) > and > >>>>> they are listing all the tags including vanilla, but it truly is not. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gheez... What asses. > >>>>> > >>>>> Arg! wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> but this is going to be the same problem we have before, if the > telcos dont > >>>>>> put the vanilla tags in for their servers, then the list will be > corrupted > >>>>>> and useless for searching. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Leonard L. Church > >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Really? Are the custom server admins going to argue this point?? > Seriously? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Put the Vanilla tag on please. Thank you. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Arg! wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> you can have no filters and sort by tags! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Richard Eid < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The problem with using no tags is there isn't a way (that I've > found so > >>>>>>>>> far) > >>>>>>>>> to have it only display servers with no tags. You either get all > the > >>>>>>>>> servers listed or servers with tags you've added to your filter. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Arg! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> vanilla == no tags, surely. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> or only the gamemode tags. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Now, what we need next is to get this in the Steam server > browser, not > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> the in game one. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Richard Eid < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be against the idea of servers coming pre-set with a > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 'Vanilla' > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> tag by default, but only if there aren't any more shenanigans > with > >>>>>>>>>>> falsifying the tag info. For example, John Doe decides to get > a > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> server > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> going, so he downloads it, adds some custom gameplay elements, > then > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> uses > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> plug-in to keep the server with the only tag of 'Vanilla', > while > >>>>>>>>>>> short/insta-spawn and low gravity, among other things, remain > in play > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> his > >>>>>>>>>>> server. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For everyone who is going to play by the rules, what do you > feel > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> should > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> become of those that skirt the system now? Would delisting be > a fair > >>>>>>>>>>> solution? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> For those that will NOT be properly using tags as intended, why > not? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> first e-mail in this thread, I posted a link to a thread in the > Steam > >>>>>>>>>>> forums > >>>>>>>>>>> in which a server op said that he's not going to use tags > purely to > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> bring > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> more traffic to his server. How do you all feel about this > now? As a > >>>>>>>>>>> player, it's frustrating because it's basically a glimpse into > the > >>>>>>>>>>> near-future and that glimpse tells me it's not going to get any > better > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure he won't be the only one who will do it. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I guess there's going to be some falsifying of the tag info no > matter > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> happens, but it'd be nice to keep it to a minimum. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Also, for everyone that's responded here, thanks for making me > feel > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> better > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> about going into the server browser now. It looks like it's > not going > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>> that difficult to find the games I am looking for, save for the > few > >>>>>>>>>>> holdouts > >>>>>>>>>>> who don't care about tricking people into connecting to their > servers. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you all again for your time. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, SakeFox < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> i was kinda surprised that when you turn cheats on it doesn't > auto > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> tag > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO Valve should quickly add a "auto-tagging" feature like > that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is already an auto tagging system. It's working like > before. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> change some parameters, like maxplayers, crits, respawn > times, it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> autmatically added to sv_tags. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> -------- > >>>>>>>>>> Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> humanity! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -------- > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
