"If Counter-Strike can't be afforded, then how are the PC and Internet connection able to be paid for?"
It's quite simple - you save money by not buying software. "Why can't people just give up Internet for a month or three to save up for a legal copy of Counter-Strike?" And why not just download the game and keep the connection to get some movies? I mean it works, and has *NO DRM* on it... FYI: I have legal versions of CS, CSS, TF2 and others. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 19:30, Nevermore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didnt try to justify pirating... I doesnt like it at all... > I am software developer and also musicsian and i know how pirating is > robbing. > I use original software. > > I just have a cracked server cause nobody here haves original software. > > I am not a pirate and i hate piratery. > > Also i didnt say that the game is not affordable, i said it is buyable > but it is not accesible in terms of payment methods, and, not being > extremely expensive, its not as cheap as in another countryes, so people > gets attracted by piratery. > It's 60% culture and the other 40% is unacessibility in payment methods > or money facts. > > The original copy of Half-Life costs 10 dollars, a pirate copy costs > less than 2 dollars and you cand find piratery spots in each corner, and > original software only in a dark forgotten corner of some big stores > fulls of original things that most of people doesn't visit because they > thinks that buying original things is stupid. > Its shit... but its real... > > I dont give the people the pirated copies, they get them theirself... > I give them original copies througt more accessible payment methods... > But to show them that original is better, i have to let pirated players > to play in my servers, because nobody wants to play in an empty server. > > > El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 11:22 -0400, Richard Eid escribió: > > If Counter-Strike can't be afforded, then how are the PC and Internet > > connection able to be paid for? Internet is a recurring monthly fee. > Why > > can't people just give up Internet for a month or three to save up for a > > legal copy of Counter-Strike? I mean...it's that good, right? > > > > I was almost understanding your situation until you tried to justify > > pirating. The person who used the Ferrari as an example is spot on. > Just > > because you want something doesn't make it OK to steal. > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Nevermore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Its a sad reality. > > > Here in South America most of players has pirated copies of games. > > > It would be great if we could do something... But its a culture > problem. > > > Most of South American people thinks that paying for software is > stupid, > > > because its cheaper to get a pirated copy. > > > > > > Who started this thread is a Brazilian. > > > In brazil i think there is a 50% of steam players, but it is > excepcional > > > because they are the most developed country of south america. But other > > > countries like Argentina have a very worst situation. > > > (i don't know if this number is accurate but my aproach is below 1% of > > > original games) > > > > > > In Europe or North America, most of valve games are cheap, because > > > people gets their income in dolars or euros... But for south america, > 10 > > > dolars are like 30 to you. > > > Games are still buyable, but its not as easy as in other countries. > > > > > > I have my own steam copy, but because i work and i realy enjoy the > games > > > and i think piratery is delincuence... > > > But when i was young, i used to have all pirate software cause my > > > parents didnt want to expend money in computer games for me. > > > > > > Parents doesnt like to spend money in computer games for their sons so > > > its impossible for kids without a credit card to buy the games. > > > > > > Me and some peruvian helpers, are making some kind of campaign to let > > > kids to get easier access to steam games and we are having some exit. > > > (6 Half-Life copies in the first month). > > > We also do not charge anything to the original price. > > > We do this only because we want to stop the piratery. > > > I am planning next month to put a banner in my website to convince more > > > people to stop robbing. > > > > > > Its horrorous how with excessive impunity there is a street stand that > > > sells pirate DVD's and music almost in each corner. > > > Police doesn't put this people in jail because it's better to have them > > > there and not robbing or drug dealing to survive... > > > They are robbing anyway, but not directly and at least, unviolently. > > > > > > Yes, my country sucks! but i love it, and i know some day it will be > > > better ^^ > > > > > > I must say, my server used to be mixed, because a steam server in south > > > america is an empty server... > > > Now primary server is not mixed anymore because steam players cannot > > > join protocol 47 servers. > > > Now we have two servers... a very little steam server almost always > > > empty, and a non steam p47 server always full. > > > I want to keep my campaign going but its hard if steam players haves > > > troubles to join most important servers of their region. > > > > > > I hate having to do that, but there is no choice. > > > I do my better effort to convince the people to buy original software. > > > Be sure that if only a 30% of players had steam i would make my server > > > steam. > > > But i only know 6 steam HLDM players here in Argentina, and 5 of them > > > bougth their original copy througt me. > > > And my server if the most important HLDM server in Argentina, its > always > > > full even at nights (13/14 players constantly with a slot reserved for > > > admins). > > > So 6 in thousands is a very veeery low percentage. > > > > > > Please dont look at me as the bad guy of the movie. > > > Non steam players are not here because of me. > > > After Pheek, the only latin american server was Terra and it was steam. > > > Terra server was empty... I opened a nonsteam homemade server and it > > > went full in just minutes. > > > So it's not because of me that this people exists. On the contrary, i > > > try to teach people that pirating is delincuence and thats why some > > > people is buying origininal games througt me. > > > In other words, if i were not doing this then nobody here would be > > > buying the original game, because they never could have the oportunity > > > to know what HLDM is. > > > > > > I know lots of people will talk back to give their arguments... > > > But if you are not living here, please, just give your opinion, but > dont > > > judge me because may be you cannot understand a reality wich is far > from > > > your everyday reality. > > > > > > I am not doing this because i want you to help non steam servers, i am > > > just doing this for you to know what happens, and maybe together we can > > > find a solution to this problem. > > > > > > Finaly i have to say that the market here for software is the worst in > > > the world... Argentinian game developers doesn't publish their games > in > > > their own country. > > > This is the case of Scratches. An award winning Argentinian game. > > > Done completly in english, and published in lots of countries all over > > > the world, but not it his home country. > > > > > > I hate this reality... And i hope, some way me and people with me will > > > make the change happens. > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > And sory if a am making you losing your time reading this. > > > > > > > > > > > > El sáb, 25-10-2008 a las 11:00 -0400, Richard Eid escribió: > > > > You're not going to receive any help from this list. Purchase the > game > > > from > > > > Steam and then we can talk. > > > > > > > > -Richard Eid > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:56 AM, pipoquinha fascinora bandido < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I need help because I have counter strike 1.6 non-steam and when I > open > > > my > > > > > server superheromod see a message from an upgrade because I already > > > Baixão > > > > > this update and when I open my server appears to be the same > message > > > that I > > > > > need help Faso help me please! > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:25:48 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: > > > > > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] is this ok> > > what?> > > > > > > > > > 2008/10/25 pipoquinha fascinora bandido < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > > > > is this ok> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > > > > > Confira > > > > > vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance,> > > > > videocassetadas e > > > > > muito mais no MSN Video!> > http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br> > > > > > > _______________________________________________> > To unsubscribe, > edit > > > your > > > > > list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> To unsubscribe, > edit > > > your > > > > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Conheça o Windows Live Spaces, a rede de relacionamentos do > Messenger! > > > > > http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
