To me it sounds like he is saying that he runs the hacked CS server to advertise his CS reselling services to those who acquired the game illegally. Which I guess is one way you can do it. But still very much not cool.
Wouldn't be violating the ban on sales by offering legit copies to players? Either way... I would just switch to CSS since it appears the short sighted court ban didn't bother to extend to source. > "The ban on Counter-Strike in Brazilian stores had some effect because as > Nevermore said, kids (and a lot of adults too for that matter) don't have > international credit cards" > If there is a ban on the game in Brazilian stores, doesn't that say to you > that you maybe shouldn't be playing the game? > > In any case, steam is territory based, so even if you manage to get the > game, I think (not 100% sure) that it won't let you play it anyway. > > "I didnt try to justify pirating... I doesnt like it at all... > I am software developer and also musicsian and i know how pirating is > robbing. > I use original software. > > I just have a cracked server cause nobody here haves original software." > If you hate piracy so much, why do you help those who pirate. If I ran a > download website hosting your software and music, would you be ok with it? > Just because I said, people in the UK don't have enough money for it.... > > > 2008/10/27 Pentium100 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> "If Counter-Strike can't be afforded, then how are the PC and Internet >> connection able to be paid for?" >> >> It's quite simple - you save money by not buying software. >> >> "Why can't people just give up Internet for a month or three to save up >> for >> a >> legal copy of Counter-Strike?" >> >> And why not just download the game and keep the connection to get some >> movies? I mean it works, and has *NO DRM* on it... >> >> FYI: I have legal versions of CS, CSS, TF2 and others. >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 19:30, Nevermore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > I didnt try to justify pirating... I doesnt like it at all... >> > I am software developer and also musicsian and i know how pirating is >> > robbing. >> > I use original software. >> > >> > I just have a cracked server cause nobody here haves original >> software. >> > >> > I am not a pirate and i hate piratery. >> > >> > Also i didnt say that the game is not affordable, i said it is buyable >> > but it is not accesible in terms of payment methods, and, not being >> > extremely expensive, its not as cheap as in another countryes, so >> people >> > gets attracted by piratery. >> > It's 60% culture and the other 40% is unacessibility in payment >> methods >> > or money facts. >> > >> > The original copy of Half-Life costs 10 dollars, a pirate copy costs >> > less than 2 dollars and you cand find piratery spots in each corner, >> and >> > original software only in a dark forgotten corner of some big stores >> > fulls of original things that most of people doesn't visit because >> they >> > thinks that buying original things is stupid. >> > Its shit... but its real... >> > >> > I dont give the people the pirated copies, they get them theirself... >> > I give them original copies througt more accessible payment methods... >> > But to show them that original is better, i have to let pirated >> players >> > to play in my servers, because nobody wants to play in an empty >> server. >> > >> > >> > El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 11:22 -0400, Richard Eid escribió: >> > > If Counter-Strike can't be afforded, then how are the PC and >> Internet >> > > connection able to be paid for? Internet is a recurring monthly >> fee. >> > Why >> > > can't people just give up Internet for a month or three to save up >> for >> a >> > > legal copy of Counter-Strike? I mean...it's that good, right? >> > > >> > > I was almost understanding your situation until you tried to justify >> > > pirating. The person who used the Ferrari as an example is spot on. >> > Just >> > > because you want something doesn't make it OK to steal. >> > > >> > > -Richard Eid >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Nevermore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Its a sad reality. >> > > > Here in South America most of players has pirated copies of games. >> > > > It would be great if we could do something... But its a culture >> > problem. >> > > > Most of South American people thinks that paying for software is >> > stupid, >> > > > because its cheaper to get a pirated copy. >> > > > >> > > > Who started this thread is a Brazilian. >> > > > In brazil i think there is a 50% of steam players, but it is >> > excepcional >> > > > because they are the most developed country of south america. But >> other >> > > > countries like Argentina have a very worst situation. >> > > > (i don't know if this number is accurate but my aproach is below >> 1% >> of >> > > > original games) >> > > > >> > > > In Europe or North America, most of valve games are cheap, because >> > > > people gets their income in dolars or euros... But for south >> america, >> > 10 >> > > > dolars are like 30 to you. >> > > > Games are still buyable, but its not as easy as in other >> countries. >> > > > >> > > > I have my own steam copy, but because i work and i realy enjoy the >> > games >> > > > and i think piratery is delincuence... >> > > > But when i was young, i used to have all pirate software cause my >> > > > parents didnt want to expend money in computer games for me. >> > > > >> > > > Parents doesnt like to spend money in computer games for their >> sons >> so >> > > > its impossible for kids without a credit card to buy the games. >> > > > >> > > > Me and some peruvian helpers, are making some kind of campaign to >> let >> > > > kids to get easier access to steam games and we are having some >> exit. >> > > > (6 Half-Life copies in the first month). >> > > > We also do not charge anything to the original price. >> > > > We do this only because we want to stop the piratery. >> > > > I am planning next month to put a banner in my website to convince >> more >> > > > people to stop robbing. >> > > > >> > > > Its horrorous how with excessive impunity there is a street stand >> that >> > > > sells pirate DVD's and music almost in each corner. >> > > > Police doesn't put this people in jail because it's better to have >> them >> > > > there and not robbing or drug dealing to survive... >> > > > They are robbing anyway, but not directly and at least, >> unviolently. >> > > > >> > > > Yes, my country sucks! but i love it, and i know some day it will >> be >> > > > better ^^ >> > > > >> > > > I must say, my server used to be mixed, because a steam server in >> south >> > > > america is an empty server... >> > > > Now primary server is not mixed anymore because steam players >> cannot >> > > > join protocol 47 servers. >> > > > Now we have two servers... a very little steam server almost >> always >> > > > empty, and a non steam p47 server always full. >> > > > I want to keep my campaign going but its hard if steam players >> haves >> > > > troubles to join most important servers of their region. >> > > > >> > > > I hate having to do that, but there is no choice. >> > > > I do my better effort to convince the people to buy original >> software. >> > > > Be sure that if only a 30% of players had steam i would make my >> server >> > > > steam. >> > > > But i only know 6 steam HLDM players here in Argentina, and 5 of >> them >> > > > bougth their original copy througt me. >> > > > And my server if the most important HLDM server in Argentina, its >> > always >> > > > full even at nights (13/14 players constantly with a slot reserved >> for >> > > > admins). >> > > > So 6 in thousands is a very veeery low percentage. >> > > > >> > > > Please dont look at me as the bad guy of the movie. >> > > > Non steam players are not here because of me. >> > > > After Pheek, the only latin american server was Terra and it was >> steam. >> > > > Terra server was empty... I opened a nonsteam homemade server and >> it >> > > > went full in just minutes. >> > > > So it's not because of me that this people exists. On the >> contrary, i >> > > > try to teach people that pirating is delincuence and thats why >> some >> > > > people is buying origininal games througt me. >> > > > In other words, if i were not doing this then nobody here would be >> > > > buying the original game, because they never could have the >> oportunity >> > > > to know what HLDM is. >> > > > >> > > > I know lots of people will talk back to give their arguments... >> > > > But if you are not living here, please, just give your opinion, >> but >> > dont >> > > > judge me because may be you cannot understand a reality wich is >> far >> > from >> > > > your everyday reality. >> > > > >> > > > I am not doing this because i want you to help non steam servers, >> i >> am >> > > > just doing this for you to know what happens, and maybe together >> we >> can >> > > > find a solution to this problem. >> > > > >> > > > Finaly i have to say that the market here for software is the >> worst >> in >> > > > the world... Argentinian game developers doesn't publish their >> games >> > in >> > > > their own country. >> > > > This is the case of Scratches. An award winning Argentinian game. >> > > > Done completly in english, and published in lots of countries all >> over >> > > > the world, but not it his home country. >> > > > >> > > > I hate this reality... And i hope, some way me and people with me >> will >> > > > make the change happens. >> > > > >> > > > Thank you all. >> > > > >> > > > And sory if a am making you losing your time reading this. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > El sáb, 25-10-2008 a las 11:00 -0400, Richard Eid escribió: >> > > > > You're not going to receive any help from this list. Purchase >> the >> > game >> > > > from >> > > > > Steam and then we can talk. >> > > > > >> > > > > -Richard Eid >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:56 AM, pipoquinha fascinora bandido < >> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I need help because I have counter strike 1.6 non-steam and >> when >> I >> > open >> > > > my >> > > > > > server superheromod see a message from an upgrade because I >> already >> > > > Baixão >> > > > > > this update and when I open my server appears to be the same >> > message >> > > > that I >> > > > > > need help Faso help me please! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:25:48 +0200> From: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > > To: >> > > > > > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] is this ok> > >> > what?> >> > > > > >> > > > > > 2008/10/25 pipoquinha fascinora bandido < >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > > > > > > > is this ok> > >> > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________> >> > > >> > > > Confira >> > > > > > vÃdeos com notÃcias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance,> > >> > > > videocassetadas e >> > > > > > muito mais no MSN Video!> > http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br> > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> > To >> unsubscribe, >> > edit >> > > > your >> > > > > > list preferences, or view the list archives,> > please visit:> >> > >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________> To >> unsubscribe, >> > edit >> > > > your >> > > > > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:> >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > > > > Conheça o Windows Live Spaces, a rede de relacionamentos do >> > Messenger! >> > > > > > http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br/ >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > > > > > please visit: >> > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
