The comparison is not silly at all, it's very parallel to having a privately owned server. Valve is not forcing anyone to run servers, and until server operators are compensated in some way for running a server and being forced to be just one of the crowd, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with someone running it how they wish.
Not all servers are created equally - despite what the Matchmaker and the Lobby System may make you think. Some server admins don't want immature players on their servers, and some server admins are onboard with the "everyone is equal" train like you seem to be. Personally, I run server for adults and the mature gaming crowd, and when someone comes in and decides to act up or sass the PAYING owners, I don't think twice about hitting the ban button. Do I expect everyone to act this way? Of course not. Would I continue to support Left 4 Dead if I, as a paying owner, were punished for using my end product in any way I choose to? Of course not, either. Bottom line is that nobody is telling -you- how to run your server, and it's not fair for you to try and tell others how to run theirs. And frankly it is a bit childish to toss away a game just because a server owner won't be reprimanded for running his server the way he likes - even if that means making you angry. Like voogru said, hit Disconnect and call it a day. On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 14:44 -0800, Leonard L. Church wrote: > I seriously don't want to argue the point more then I already did. It > appears other server operators feel differently and the mob will rule on > this one. > > Comparing a rented server to your house or nightclub is silly. Also, > comparing kicking someone equaling murder is also silly. > > Decide what you want. I'm out of the L4D game. > > Timothy L Havener wrote: > > So Valve is going to go down that road and blacklist the IP of anyone > > who kicks someone unfairly? Besides that is also only for ranked > > servers. There are unranked servers that do not have those rules and > > you can do as you please. > > > > J T wrote: > >> Battlefiedl 2 ROE was a means of allowing "10 year olds" play the game and > >> not get his feelings hurt. In essence, you couldn't do what you liked with > >> your server if it conflicted with the ROE. Like pistol only servers. > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Timothy L Havener < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Why not argue the point? If you are going to make such a ludicrous > >>> statement please back it up with logic. So I pay for a server for my > >>> friends and I to play on or just for the heck of it and I should have no > >>> say as to what goes on? Who in their right mind would waste the time? If > >>> Valve wants to control the gaming experience so some ten year old > >>> doesn't get his feelings hurt then let them pay for their own servers. > >>> I am not going to pay for them to have a place for other people to play > >>> where I have no say. Everyone is afraid of the big bad admin. Do this > >>> and see how quickly you have no community and no where to play. > >>> > >>> Leonard L. Church wrote: > >>> > >>>> I am serious Spencer. I know we don't agree on allot of things and this > >>>> appears to be another one, so let's kindly not argue the point. > >>>> > >>>> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> You can't be serious. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. > >>>>> > >>> Church > >>> > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM > >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking > >>>>> > >>>>> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public (and > >>>>> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out the > >>>>> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things get > >>>>> voted on. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just sit > >>>>> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then wait > >>>>> for them to rejoin. > >>>>> > >>>>> Valve, please don't do this. > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
